susan+rick wrote:

> I said:
> >> This is the truth as I see it also but this theory of course forces us to
> >> accept that those who believe they see the absolute TRUTH may indeed truly
> >> see it.
>
> Colin replied:
> > Not at all. As we cannot get outside ourselves, away from our meaning
> > structures etc, we
> > cannot know absolute truth.
>
>  I elaborate:
> >From my perspective, Colin, it seems you are saying that it is your
> *absolutely true* belief that  that no one can see the *absolute truth*.
> Therefore you yourself are claiming to see the *absolute truth* in this
> matter.
>
> Personally, I think if you want to believe (as I do) that no one can know
> the absolute truth then you have to include yourself in that group and
> accept that you might be wrong. Maybe someone somewhere has got it exactly
> right!
>
> Colin, since there is no emoticon for friendly discussion, please understand
> that I'm just discussing this concept and not attacking your personal belief
> system.

I know you are not! I understand also what you are saying. If what you say is true, we
would have no way of knowing! Why? Because we could only come to that conclusion
subjectively.
As for my belief system, I am not sure I have one but if I do it is fluid-it changes 
with
time and experience and thought. I see life/thought as fluid-sometimes forward 
sometimes
backward-but flowing for eternity to an end I cannot concieve. I cannot even conceive
eternity anyway. We live in the 'time' we have constructed. I think we will leave that
construction behind when we leave our bodies behind but that is even more difficult to
comprehend. However, I find this something to be joyful about and not afraid of. Some 
day,
in another space and time, I think we will know. For now, we are limited by living 
within
matter and we can only follow our conscience.
--
bw
colin

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