Hey again kids, I posted this from my yahoo addy at work today but I guess it didn't bounce on the list. Anyway, being the good Ukrainian son that I am, I just gotta say that perogies are called... hmmm.. how the hell would you spell it... "pedaheh" and cabbage rolls are "holobchi" --- however the hell you spell 'em, I don't know. Believe me, I grew up on the stuff, because my Dad's family was from "the Old Country" (he was the first child in the family born in Canada -- his brothers were born in the old country). Perogies were a staple every time we went to see my Dad's family in Alberta, but I admit that I only like the potato/cheese variety. The sauerkraut and cottage cheese ones make me vomit. As for cabbage rolls, I like the traditional Ukrainian ones, the small ones, but my non-Ukrainian mother makes the best ones (and I can make them pretty good too, to toot my own horn!). We make them nice and big (huge actually), with lots of meat and bacon in them, and then cooked in a sweet and sour sauce -- might sound gross, but hot damn... I'll bring em to next Jonifest! I also must admit that I don't really like "Traditional" borsht, the meatless kind. I also make a mean borsht, but have meat in mine, and I avoid the sour cream like the plague -- I think it ruins it. Also, I know that some people eat it cold, which makes me shudder to think of. We also used to enjoy a variation of the perogie, pronounced *almost* like pedaheh, but it was called "pedaSCHeh" and was made out of bread, stuffed with cottage cheese and dill, soaked in cream, and then fried in butter or something like that. Basically, it was like a dill-ish perogie but was made out of actual bread instead of dough. And to this day, whenever someone in the family goes to Alberta, we take orders on who wants rings of kubasa from Mundare, my Dad's hometown -- in other words, the unlucky traveler goes home with a garlic-smelling trunk. Anyway, I am sure I rattled on about Ukrainian food for much too long! Oh, and for the record, I always avoided "studenants" (no idea how to spell it, but it always sounded like that) which I am pretty sure was head cheese. Anyway, I'll shut up now! Evian np: "Alibis" -- Sergio Mendes