Bob pointed out that this post was incorrectly labeled NJC the first
go round so I'm sending it again without that tag.

Mark

Kakki wrote:
> Her going from the "gas leaks and the
> > oil spills" to "sex kills everything" is not logical if you take
it
> > literally.  But if you take it in an absurd context, the larger
> point of how
> > ridiculously the substitution of scapegoating for justice has
become
> in our
> > world it becomes clear, i.e., "sex caused the oil spills, too."
> Yeah, right.

and I replied:

 I never thought she was necessarily pointing a finger at any one
 institution or group of people in this song.  To me it's just a
series
 of observations of things that are royally fucked up in modern life.
 The first verse does address justice and questions whether there is
 such a thing anymore but I don't think she's trying to draw some
 direct line of causality from that to gas leaks and oil spills.  Nor
 do I think she's saying that AIDS is the result of greed and lust.
 She's merely observing that in the world today there is corruption
and
 greed and it can and does pervert justice, that gas leaks pollute the
 air, oil spills muck up our oceans and that Madison Avenue shoves sex
 in our faces to sell products but fails to mention that you'd better
 play safe if you value your life.  (I must admit however, that the
 blanket statement 'sex kills' has always bothered me.  So after
 rereading your post, Kakki, I must admit that there may be something
 in what you say.)

 She continues, talking about health care and how the cure can
 sometimes kill you while the price keeps getting more & more
 ridiculously astronomical.  Pettiness clogs the courts with lawsuits
 and road rage makes people driving the freeways into psychos.
Rapists
 stalk women any place at any time & kids in schoolrooms mow down
their
 classmates with guns.

 Not one specific thing.  Many, many things that Joni sees as terribly
 wrong with modern life.  As she sees it, 'the balance is undone' and
 of course that balance between positive & negative is one of her
 ongoing, pervasive themes.  She also seems to have a pretty healthy
 respect for those 'Indian chiefs with their old beliefs.'

 Of course, there are many good things in our day to day lives and Sex
 Kills is not representative of those.   'Taming the Tiger' gave us
 quite a few of those but so many seem to dismiss that record.  I
count
 it as one of her best but that's another subject entirely.

 Mark in Seattle

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