Lonely Painter said:
>Do I think Klan sites should never see the light of day in any situation?
>DAMN RIGHT! (Censor this!) By allowing such material to persist under the
>guise of some misplaced notion that censorship is bad, we allow hate to
>persist. But oh, no, we can't censor hate, can we? It is a natural
>expression! We can't let those poor Klan people not have a place to express
>themselves, right? That wouldn't be fair to them! Gimmie a break!
Okay, so who gets to make these censorship rules? Who draws the line at
this? The Government? Well, then off goes all the pages up about Weed.
'Cause weed is also evil. And sex. All pages, kama sutra educational style
or porn style go away. Or stickly purely to the hate groups, I think that
any Lesbian Avenger stuff would be be taken down under that ruling, 'cause
they do mean and evil stuff to people they don't like...that they hate.
Sure, you can say from your liberal mindset that all who hate can't publish
and feel all safe about it, but who's idea of what should be hated and what
shouldn't should be the law? 'Cause those in power don't like gays or weed
smokers too much, but I doubt most of the people on this list want those
people silenced.
Kakki said:
>with, they should feel no need to search out any further first hand
>literature about the Klan. Wouldn't they just know it is wrong, period,
>and
>not have to investigate further to see for themselves?
And students don't have purely accademic curiousity about this? Reading
those sites really blow your mind to what humans are capable, in a bad way.
These people exist. And if we understand how they go wrong and what's up
with their methods of thought, we can better understand humans and thus,
ourselves.
>This is amazing to me. I know you are young, Emma, and it blows me away
>that in such recent times literature like this would be allowed to be
>disseminated on your high school campus.
They have to stand on the ohter side of the street or just the boardering
sidewalk, depending on HOW psychotic the cops deem them. And the cops stay
there to make sure students don't hurt the people. Like how an anti-gay guy
got threatened by this baseball player with his bat. But they're legally
allowed to be near the property. It's within their rights. And my former HS
was rated very important to these groups, becaues it's one of the top
schools in the nation and in a really wealthy area. (New Trier in the
Chicago area.) You can't legally make them not do it. Or stop the Giddeons
from handing out Bibles once a year. They're within their rights. DOesn't
mean the adminisitration likes it, but there's nothing you can do with
protestors or people like that. Northwestern gets a lot of them, too.
>they can certainly back up
>this stance with a long list of historical facts to prove it. Teach your
>children well.
But they still need to learn how to read though the code. So they don't get
tricked by something much less well known in the future. To have a well
develped moral compass, one should be able to see the killer as a killer,
rather hear about him and judge from stories. And most would be repulsed by
it, when they read it, if you do teach them well. I don't think that
censoring is teaching well. If they're taught well they'll have to stop
looking soon because they'll be repulsed. If they're drawn to the Klan's
ideals, I HARDLY THINK this was a fault of the librarian for showing it to
them. Those ideas are preplanted to become enticing. And if they're there,
there're no way to get them out. What's his name, that guy who killed Ricky
Birdsong a few years back traced his hatred for non-whites back to 8th grade
(at my Junior High) studying the Holocaust. Instead of seeing the horrors
(and this was the same teacher as i had, it did not glorify nazis AT ALL.)
he got to hate the Jews. In a 45% jewish school or something like that. So
he learned it in junior high without websites (also pre public internet) and
without anyone exposing him to anything but facts about tragedies. He was an
easy target to begin with, for some reason. What's my point? Well, I don't
think showing a website to kids encourages anything, and if it does, then
there's something wrong with the kids wiring already, and you didn't do
anything that wouldn't have happened anyhow.
Emma (wordy).
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