from what i've read on the eminem thread, artists associated with the grammys 
are afraid to speak their mind for fear of having judgment come against them 
down the road.  in other words, no one wants to cast stones, even if they 
don't like what he says.

my take on m&m is that he is a very talented and dynamic person who is also 
very limited in his social experience and very immature.  those two 
limitations have him singing or rapping about the things he does.  it's his 
talent people really see, even through his ugly subject matter.  i think he 
could really do better if he grew up.

as for elton, one article posted to the list implied that he was performing 
with him to help his own career.  i find that hard to believe.  i think 
elton, even on a weak day, would think his career has done pretty well with 
or without m&m in his life.  my guess is it was his way of trying to rise 
above.  say something to the world like...look, i don't like what he says but 
i see his talent and i'm not given to hate just because he's stupid.  that 
would be more my guess as to why elton sang with him.  keep in mind, elton 
sings with a lot of people and not all of them are top notch performers.  he 
seems to go where he wants to.  

for me, the real problem with eminem is that he leads others to hate.  i 
think he's a smart guy and probably doesn't have as much hate inside as he 
likes people to think, but i think alot of his fans don't know any better and 
that is unfortunate.
patrick
np. emmylou - one big love - a very nice song.  this whole album has a soft 
substraight of rock drive that is very very subtle but motivating.

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