OK,
I don't want to keep this going on forever, that's not
my intent. I could respond to every rediculous and
ugly thing in marcel's last post. Instead, I'll keep
it very brief.
..."To appreciate the idea over the craft".
That is ridiculous when you are talking songs,
musical performances, and the like.
Darling, substitute the word 'attitude' for 'idea' and
that explains 95% of rock music, both past and
present.
I could talk till my tongue turns blue listing bands
who have little if any talent and have achieved
success. And you know this is true.
In Yokos case it had everything to do with who she
fucked. If she had fucked
Stewart Sutcliffe she would have been in Hamburg still
an unknown just as the Artist he was with was. I mean
thats pretty hard for you to refute and be real.
Well, wasn't Sutcliffe dead by the time Yoko met John?
Necrophilia would have been pretty attention getting,
I think!
Seriously, You're confusing fame and successs, as you
have done many times throughout your post. Money isn't
everything. If it was, We'd have been treated to Court
& Spark pts. 2,3,4,5, etc.
<<<She was a prime mover in the Fluxus art movement,
an extremely significant development in art that paved
the way for conceptual art, performance art, and
postmodernism.>>>
...High sounding terminology but at best only one of
any number of fleeting contemporary classifications of
stuff so banal that it is given a name only to make
sure no one mistakes it for something real and
important. How can i say such blasphemy...one of my
best friends wives was a real modern artist who had
real exhibits and teaches at Berkeley and thats what
SHE said.
So a friend of a friend says something and it becomes
the truth? So teaching at Berkeley makes one an
expert? Please. I'm not trying to toot my own horn,
but i am an artist as well. I have real exhibits (go
the the Evanston Art Center in Evanston, IL before
April 20 and see for yourself). I teach. I was
fortunate enough to obtain my MFA degree at one of the
highest ranked art schools in the country. One thing I
can tell you-all this don't make me THE expert in art.
Same for your friend's wife.
What of all the books written about Fluxus? Does
scholarly research count for anything? Seems to me it
should count for a little more than the attention
given to a bunch of Beatles hangers on who got pissed
when the gravy train dried up.
...Im sorry but performance art includes covering
yourself with shit to make a political statement. In
other words its literally anything. That is not
significant. But it is Yokos claim to fame.
To my knowledge Yoko has never covered herself with
shit. In fact, performance art is but a small fraction
of her artistic output.
I'll agree with you that there is a lot of bad
performance art out there. Claiming that Yoko is
responsible for all of it is like saying that the
person who invented movable type is responsable for
Harlequin Romances.
...Your politics are showing through and overwhelming
your better judgement. You demean Okeefe and many
other true women artists by making this assumption.
I don't recall saying that Yoko Ono was the FIRST or
ONLY important woman artist. I credited her with
helping to break down the white male dominated art
world. I'm a white male, and I hate that white males
run the arts. I'm not the only one claiming this,
Check out http://www.guerrillagirls.com/
...Please where are Yokos BEST pieces showing today.
There is a retrospective, titled "Yes Yoko Ono' making
its way around the country. It will be at the Walker
Art Center in Minneapolis, and the San Fancisco Museum
of Modern Art among other places. GO! it may open your
mind a little.
By the way, one of my points in the last post was that
Yoko would be better known today AS AN ARTIST had she
not married John Lennon. Her work is underexhibited
because to the public eye she is a Beatle wife and not
respectecd for her own considerable accomplishments.
OK, enough of this. I know from all the kind and
touching posts I recieved that I'm not the only friend
of Yoko on this list. Anyone else wnat to put in their
two cents worth?
Tyler
NP: Yoko Ono-Plastic Ono Band (of course!)
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