At 11:27 AM 06/02/2001, you wrote:
>> Life without parole is barbaric too.
>
>I don't agree. Sexual abuse is barbaric and leaves horiffic and permanent 
scars.
People who commit such acts, if convicted, should never be allowed the
opportunity to do so again. <

Are you saying that it is *not* inhumane to lock someone in an 8x8 foot cell 
for life, or that its cruelty is justified?  Are you wanting to punish the 
person, or protect society?  Neither has been proven to be achieved through 
punishment.  


mags <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> when a person is raped, there is nothing left.

I was raped, by three people for eight hours.  I am a changed person, though 
healthier as the years go on, but there has always been something left of me. 
 

And still, I feel for the humanity of my rapists--I wouldn't want them 
tortured as I was--and I feel that a societal solution is what we need to 
look for.  Prisoners, even lifers, have "conjugal visits," children, 
familles, parents, cultures (not to mention prison culture itself) that 
breeds further violence.  Locking someone away is not only just as inhumane 
as the act the person committed (why is it ok for the government to be 
inhumane?), but does nothing to stop *all* the people who will grow up to be 
criminals.  Treating people inhumanely instigates and propagates further 
violence.  We have more and more prisoners and more and more criminals every 
year.  Prison doesn't work.  There are experimental prisons that have had 
some good results - surprisingly, the military style prisons have a very huge 
success rate.  Imo, we need to work to eradicate the problem and not lock 
away the "undesirable" people, only to turn them, their familles and culture 
into more angry and more violent people.  Take a violent person and treat him 
like an animal, deprive all his senses and you will get a "worse," more 
violent, person.  And his contact with his family and culture magnifies the 
very problem you are trying to eradicate.  Plus, it is downright cruel - and 
we have no more right to be cruel to another person than he has to be to us.

I think that having been raped, I am less likely to want to see another 
person suffer.  Something turned these people into this and I'd hate to 
support a program that makes them worse (feel subjectively worse and behave 
objectively more violent).  I want to see improvement - and on a far greater 
scale than the person above wrote about saving the person the convicted 
rapist may rape.  I want to see an end to criminal behavior and mental 
illness, and locking up the caught/convicted rapist will not do this.  Also, 
remember that "treatment" (like punishment) isn't only for that individual 
but for future generations.  The goal is far more global than protecting one 
possible victim.

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