In a message dated 7/16/01 2:00:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Blondin the Bleachers said << Nirvana and Cobain changed the > landscape of music in the > 90s >>> Curt Cobain is really just one of the more prominent artists who died an early death and thus recieved greater credit than was actually due just like Jim Morrison. I never saw Nirvana live but I did see a couple absolutely dreadful performances by The Doors and thought to make a movie about that band was sort of humorous. Im sorry but they sucked. <<<and brought back music that was original and > music that had something > to say. >>> I did watch a huge amount of MTV from its inception until it left the pure video broadcast mode around 1992 and I will say Niravna had to my ears one really good song and I cant even remember the title today. On the other hand I will never forget and can still hear Jimis otherworldly voice singing Purple Haze on an early morning radio alarm wakeup over 30 years ago. Nirvanas style was more or less mainstream based on all the other bands getting exposure especially since there was nothing at all avante garde about either their equipment or their sound.Grunge rock. Im sorry but what is that if it isnt literally grunge. I think had not Cobain died, his music surely would have, as it has, and there would be very few people today who hold his band in the esteem that they do. But whenever someone dies people want to say his death was meaningful or important and mundane accomplishments are lionized. I think its fair to say its hard to imagine the band that has absolutely "nothing" to say exists. They all have something. My biggest gripe is that there is so little originality in the industry today. Nirvana was not an original iMHO. <<< His death is as much a milestone as that of > Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin or Jim Morrison. >>> Ooooh I couldnt disagree more. Its hard to find a single professional guitar player today who recognizes Curt Cobain as the influence of his style and technique. Its hard today to find a single professional guitar player who doesnt think Hendrix influenced his playing. Even many who werent born when Jimi walked the earth. As for Janis? Oh my God. Janis was uncopyable. Madonna would be a cartoon on a stage next to Janis. To all other female vocalists, dont even try to go there. Thats why Cass Elliott (who had an outrageous voice) has the look on her face in the movie Monterrey Pop that she does. Im not trying to be hard on a Cobain fan but these are two artists who went totally into uncharted waters. Curt sailed around the bay. Dgrowe said : <<< The grunge musical equation of "heavy distortion = Chorus" is today, as cliche as the guitar licks and panty-dancers of the pop-metal bands they were reacting to.>>> I absolutely agree. <<< In fact, there's a credible argument to be made that Cobain & Co. ushered in the precipitous fall of Rock's overall appeal as a genre to it's lowest levels in history. >>> I would go this far. I think overexposure and overhype of the more mediocre artists has been just as responsible. Not only that I think the concert ticketmaster axis is very responsible as is the death of the true club scene. Cobain had nothing to do with that. <<< That the major label publicity machine attempted to counteract this by making Cobain's suicide look like some kind of martyrdom to rock 'n roll creativity, and that so many people subsequently bought into it, simply escapes me.>>> People as a whole buy into alot of hype overall. <<< In any case, there's hardly a legacy to equal the likes of Hendrix & Joplin ... though I'll grant you that Morrison's self-indulgence makes a somewhat better comparison. >>>> My comments above reiterated. Don Rowe
