On 7/08/2013 3:24 PM, Lukas Eder wrote:
Hello,

2013/8/6 Venkat Sadasivam <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

    Ryan - You have discovered a nice problem to be resolved. I cache
    Record object at web layer to re-use them across multiple http
    request, if my transaction is rolled back then my cache object at
    web layer becomes incorrect also its too hard to track and
    rollback every record updated in the failed transaction.

    Lukas - from a framework perspective it would be nice to add
    rollback() method in UpdatableRecord to  bring it back to original
    state then its upto the transaction layer to call the rollback()
    method.


The problem here is to know what the "original" state really is.

jOOQ already maintains an "original" state through Record.original(). This state corresponds to what was originally loaded from the database. Upon successful store, this "original" state is set to the Record's value. While I agree that this behaviour is cumbersome when rolling back a transaction, I'm not sure if there's an easy solution to this, which suits all use-cases and transaction models.

The silliest solution to this problem might be to add an UpdatableRecord.refreshOriginal() method, to re-read original values from the database, without affecting the other values. Would that make sense?

Cheers
Lukas

For that to work wouldn't it need to know the original original values?, or at least the original original primary key value, otherwise after it is stored, the original state will be updated, so refreshing it may not be accurate.

It would almost seem to work with all cases it would need record "versioning". Then it could handle savepoints too and roll back to an arbitrary point. Then it is just up to the end implementation to hook in the records with the transaction layer to keep it all in sync.

I think with "versioning", those listeners you are working on, and record "sets" to "track" all your records, you could implement just about any use case you needed to. It is just up to the end implementation to hook it all together in a way that makes sense for them (eg. hooking up a "set" to a transaction so they can be committed and rolled back as a single unit).



    On Tuesday, 6 August 2013 03:41:12 UTC-4, Lukas Eder wrote:

        Hi Ryan,

        2013/8/2 Ryan How <[email protected]>

            Hi Lukas,

            That did the trick! Thanks! :)

            In the very simplistic form:

            Load in any record objects as required, these are usually
            bound to forms, tables, etc. This can happen in multiple
            transactions, in several stages as the user needs, etc
            User does any changes as needed to the records (inclusing
            adding records and deleting records)
            On save
            try {
            open connection & transaction
            storeRecordOriginalState
            record.store() on each changed record (Or delete if deleting)
            commit transaction
            } catch (Optimistic Lock Exception) {
            Special handling involving the user to resolve issues
            } catch (Any other Exception) {
            rollback transaction
            restore records back to their original state
            } finally () {
            close connection
            }


        Thanks for sharing this! Makes sense to me.

            So it is important to be able to roll back database
            changes and not lose information in the records or the
            optimistic locking will not work afterwards.

            It's working well now :)

            UI <-> JOOQ Records <-> Database.

            It would be fantastic if it could all happen automatically
            just by calling .store(). That would be "magic". I don't
            think that should be integrated into JOOQ and the
            architecture is very application dependent, but it would
            be great if JOOQ could provide some hooks so I could hook
            into .store() to do all the additional stuff.


        I remember discussing #2010 with you.
        
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/jooq-user/2010/jooq-user/tMN1n3HCDz8/CfavBiBWi0UJ
        
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21searchin/jooq-user/2010/jooq-user/tMN1n3HCDz8/CfavBiBWi0UJ>

        I'm currently implementing this for jOOQ 3.2:
        https://github.com/jOOQ/jOOQ/issues/2010

        This is why I'm reaching out to see what else might be needed
        in this new SPI to simplify things for people wanting to
        interact with jOOQ's optimistic locking. After all, I might
        not remove this feature in 4.0, if it can be solved properly :-)

            Thinking about it... it is sounding a lot like hibernates
            flush(). Load a bunch of records, do whatever changes, on
            calling flush() it persists it to database, with any
            checks... But I never really liked how hibernate did that
            :). It would be better to accumulate all the records that
            you want only in a set, then just attach that set to a
            connection and .store(). I guess a set <-> transaction
            auto populating could happen too. We also do a few things
            like linking related records before storing them (because
            they don't have primary keys yet), then it stores them in
            the correct order and populates the foreign keys.


        Interesting thoughts. Yes, I don't think that jOOQ should
        implement a Hibernate-y flush, which does things automatically
        (i.e. magically). Being able to drive the behaviour using an
        SPI (with 1-2 default implementations) seems more appropriate.

            Anyway, I'm happy with how it is working at the moment, it
            isn't worth the extra effort for me to try and support
            this flexibility unless I start another project and want
            to get it in from the start. JOOQ does a great job of what
            it does. It seems like it would be expanding the scope of
            jooq to start getting into this other stuff, could almost
            be a separate project.


        Yes it would be a separate project.

        Cheers
        Lukas

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