On Monday, February 3, 2014 10:34:33 PM UTC+5:30, Lukas Eder wrote:
>
> Hi Shyam,
>
> Don't worry, no offense taken here! I know that things can get frustrating 
> when they don't appear to work as expected.
>
Thank you for understanding. 

>
> 2014-02-03 Sha <[email protected] <javascript:>>:
>
>> Thanks you for your reply Lukas,
>>    Sorry Lukas, if i said anything which makes you feel bad.
>> I am sure JOOQ would provide all missing features in future. I knew our 
>> business scenarios would be complex as many other enterprise scenarios.
>>
>> The only thing is, I have given timelines by my senior managers to finish 
>> POC using JOOQ.
>> So if I cant do now , what can I show for them ? and how can convince 
>> them about JOOQ?
>>
>
> Well, the questions you should ask yourself are these:
>
> 1. What makes you think jOOQ is the right tool for the job in the first 
> place?
>
We have done some evaluation and before decided to test jOOQ. i.e. how does 
it support complex issues.

> 2. Do your senior manager worry about 1-2 details such as a missing clause 
> (It's implemented on GitHub master, btw: 
> https://github.com/jOOQ/jOOQ/issues/1018. Due for jOOQ 3.3)? Or will they 
> worry about the big picture?
>
Unfortunately yes, as 80% our scripts are uses these complex joins and 
update statements. So its fundamental in our case. 

> 3. What are the alternatives? In our opinion, there is no typesafe SQL API 
> that can handle SQL statement complexity to the same extent as jOOQ
>
Comparatively eBean , JOOQ has many features without doubt , only thing we 
are testing how far it is suitable to handle complex queries. 

>
> If all fails, you might still try to present them with this 
> manager-compatible presentation of ours:
> http://www.jooq.org/why-jOOQ.pdf
>
Yeah these are present to them in the initial discussions. Then only 
started to test JOOQ in our case. 

>
>  
>
>> Probably we need to come back again to JOOQ after some more time when 
>> these missing features are incorporated.
>>
>
> Sure. Building upon jOOQ is not an easy choice. It takes time to be sure 
> if you're making the right steps. If you feel anything else is missing, you 
> might also give us a list of priorities, so we can see if we can slightly 
> the roadmap.
>
Sure , its a win-win situation. helps two parties to come with great tools. 

>  
>
>> At least some workarounds there to show test scenarios meanwhile , it 
>> would be great.
>> Your efforts and support is wonderful.
>>
>
> And that will stay this way :-)
>

Thank you so much. 

>
> Cheers
> Lukas 
>

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