Hello great assembly: Remember the case of the disciples of Jesus trying to stop some people from casting out demons in the name of Jesus? And Jesus said to let them be; as long as they do these things in my name then they are one of us. therefore COJOSA UK-IRL is still us.
Let us nt play sentiments with the name, because the members of this chapter attended command jos. Period. The gap I see is that since COJOSA here is legally registered with an authorized constitution, then every other chapter should be an offshoot of the main body. The lawyers should correct me of I am wrong but the same constitution is binding on all chapters. Secondly, this makes a case for review of this constitution concerning opening of new chapters, I believe everyone should take permission from the Lagos chapter being the oldest. it won't make sense for every chapter to draw up and adopt different contracts for the same association. Thirdly, all exco members or at least one from all active chapters should be members of a unified global committee that should meet online, virtual or physical as the situation permits every quarter or at least twice yearly. Then is the issue of funding, since we all belong under one body, then it behoves on us all to ensure the centre is adequately funded, so irrespective of location, all member chapters should remit a certain portion of their collections to the main body - especially where all activities targeted towards the Alma Mater will start or be executed thru the main chapter, this way, we still maintain the centre is strengthened. Of course everyone thru their exco's will determine how this funds are spent. Otherwise let us call the governing council members to give a direction on how this can be resolved before it escalates outta proportion. Just my 2 cents. Kind regards, Daniel Opolo FHH '89 Sent from my iPad On Jun 20, 2011, at 6:21 PM, Teejay <teejay7...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Very Nice talk Tunde.. Now let's see action! Enough of al this grammar abeg. > > Teejay 86 Flying horse > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:52 PM, adigunb <adig...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> Folks, >> >> Here is my two cents about this issue after reading the long email threads. >> >> First of all, let's give kudos to everyone in the UK chapter for all they >> have accomplished so far, I think >> they have done an incredible job. >> >> Secondly, every issue has a root cause and in this case I see 2 major gaps: >> >> -Do we have a governance policy of each COSOJA Chapter ? >> -Who are the members that are responsible for administering and >> implementing these polices >> >> The question we should be asking ourselves before finger pointing and >> accusing any chapter is, is the UK >> chapter executing their goals within these policies or are they in line? If >> the answer is NO then we cannot >> make up rules on the fly. We need to get on the drawing board and agree to >> our polices. >> >> If UK- IRL chapter wants to have a tea party in Mars and they are not >> conflicting with the goals of COSOJA association today >> I don't see a reason why they shouldn't. >> >> My suggestions/recommendation to cover this gap is to look into how other >> associations have resolved/managed this issue and review their policy. >> The reality is we cannot stop positive growth. In my opinion, UK chapter is >> on the path of positive growth. >> >> Lastly, lets see the value in what these guys are doing and the positives. >> This email group is for collaborating >> intellectually, if you disagree let your argument be constructive. Also, >> provide advise that lead to solutions . >> For example, what I would have expected in this case are questions like, >> can we use >> this website to start a central COSOJA website? ( that is, if UK chapter is >> OK with it) >> >> Don't discourage anyone, if there is no innovation or motivation, then >> progress will be stalled. Until some one is able to tell >> me that UK Chapter is going out of line of an existing policy let us allow >> them proceed with their goals. >> >> By the way, I am not with the UK chapter and thanks for those that sent in >> their apologies. >> >> Tunde Adigun (85) >> >> >> From: lugo Ben <raftex1...@yahoo.com> >> To: JosCommandos@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 10:56:55 AM >> Subject: Re: [Jos Commandos] COJOSA UK-IRL Branch >> >> >> Those behind COJOSA UK-IRL are honorable, enthusiastic and passionate >> ex-students of CSSJ living in UK and Ireland. They can not operate in the UK >> without formalising as a legal entity within the context of UK laws. They >> must be encouraged and supported instead of throwing e-insults at them. My >> believe is that there comes a time when there will be collaborated efforts, >> joint projects and programs for the benefit of our mother alma mater and >> members. This will be the task for the leaders of the various chapters and >> not on a general platform as this. That does not mean that individual >> commandos or different chapters can not render assistance to CSSJ in their >> own capacities. >> This is the decade of COMMANDOS. Lets keep the torch burning and flag >> flying, anywhere, everywhere. We must build and not destroy. Thanks Mike and >> Vivian. >> >> Ugo Ben (Pioneer Class: 82) >> >> A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows public >> opinion....Grantland Rice >> >> >> From: "mikeagana2...@yahoo.com" <mikeagana2...@yahoo.com> >> To: JosCommandos@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 9:19:23 AM >> Subject: Re: [Jos Commandos] COJOSA UK-IRL Branch >> >> >> Ladies/Guys, shield the swords. You have all made valid points. Let's >> appreciate the diversity for now and get the branch excos to meet and >> clarify the different views. The essence of the association is to build >> relationship and contact. Let's avoid words that can hurt. Long live Command >> Jos old students assoc. Mike Agana, 83 set, New House. >> Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN >> From: mavi...@yahoo.com >> Sender: JosCommandos@yahoogroups.com >> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:03:12 +0000 >> To: Command Jos<joscommandos@yahoogroups.com> >> ReplyTo: JosCommandos@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [Jos Commandos] COJOSA UK-IRL Branch >> >> >> I don't know what this Cojosa UK-IRL is all about and who's behind it, >> because their stance I consider very arrogant, which does not serve the >> ideals of Cojosa from my perspective. Cojosa USA has been liasing with >> Cojosa Nigeria in a colloborative manner I see no reason why Cojosa UK-IRL >> cannot do the same. It doesn't mean any group of persons parading themselves >> as Cojosa, we must necessarily go into talks with them. It's high time >> Cojosa exco begin to consider registering Cojosa as a trademark so that >> every dick, tom and harry that is considering using the name would consider >> the legal implications alongside.......These are my thoughts. >> >> Ini Akpan >> Dragon house >> Class of 88 >> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >> From: Cojosa Uk-irl <cojosauk...@yahoo.co.uk> >> Sender: JosCommandos@yahoogroups.com >> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:50:46 +0100 (BST) >> To: <joscommandos@yahoogroups.com> >> ReplyTo: JosCommandos@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [Jos Commandos] COJOSA UK-IRL Branch >> >> >> Dear Taju >> Thank you, and well said, but we can only state at this point, that after >> our meeting takes place, we will then be able to express our views and >> suggestions on this topic more clearly and hopefully maybe come to an >> agreement to what you have suggested. Kind Regards. >> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:17 BST Taju Yahaya wrote: >> >> >I dont think that we should decipate our energies pointing out our errors. >> >we should rather be making suggestions on how to achieve the common goals >> >that we have. >> >we can really have a global executive drawn from the executives of the >> >various active branches who will drive the global body whilst the local >> >executives inplement the global vision and mission in thier various >> >branches through thier own programs. >> >Unity in diversity should strenghten rather than devide us. with branches >> >in the US, UK, Abuja, Lagos, PortHarcourt and probably Jos, we already have >> >a global outlook. The advantages of a global outfit are quite enormous. >> >this should reflect in our approach to the way we porsue the main aim of >> >the association which is to better our lot and give back to our alma mata >> >(in structure and content)in particular and the society at large. >> >We can achieve this and much more if we can bring our strenght (in >> >diversity) to bare. >> >Tajudeen Yahaya >> >Tiger house >> >88 set. >> >--- On Mon, 6/20/11, Cojosa Uk-irl <cojosauk...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> > >> > >> >From: Cojosa Uk-irl <cojosauk...@yahoo.co.uk> >> >Subject: Re: [Jos Commandos] COJOSA UK-IRL Branch >> >To: "JosCommandos@yahoogroups.com" <JosCommandos@yahoogroups.com> >> >Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 5:48 AM >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >COJOSA UK-IRL has been registered as a Trust to legitimize COJOSA UK-IRL so >> >as to carry out all activities and be taken seriously on all activities we >> >want to undertake. >> > >> >Yes a Yahoo Group has been created for a visual connection for all those >> >who live and reside in the UK, Ireland and Europe respectively. We need >> >this to help communicate with each other and create awareness that there is >> >a COJOSA UK-IRL chapter. And thirdly yes a website will be created and is >> >still under discussion as to what will contents will be and creating a >> >common platform. >> > >> > >> >But on the other hand, with regards to reference points, yes COJOSA should >> >have a common platform to operate with, but it seems, as in the past >> >different chapters have sprung up and there have been no uniformity, >> >different ideas, goals and comment have been published by different chapter
