Hey Mark,

Do you mind if I incorporate these in the JOSE use cases document?
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-barnes-jose-use-cases>

--Richard



On Nov 7, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Mark Watson <[email protected]> wrote:

>> All, I was hoping to get this to you before your meeting, but get repeated 
>> delivery failures. One more try ...
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Mark Watson <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: JSON Web Key support for private and symmetric keys
>>> Date: November 5, 2012 11:31:53 AM PST
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> First let me introduce myself. I work for Netflix and have been working on 
>>> standardization of various components that we need for support of our 
>>> service in pure HTML/Javascript. Specifically, the HTML Encrypted Media 
>>> Extensions [1], Media Source Extension [1] and the WebCrypto API [3] in W3C 
>>> (the latter to provide us the ability to implement a secure application 
>>> protocol in Javascript).
>>> 
>>> At last week's W3C meeting in Lyon, two requirements came up that we 
>>> believe could be met very well by the extension of JWK to support private 
>>> and symmetric keys:
>>> 
>>> (1) Key wrap/unwrap in the WebCrypto API
>>> 
>>> The WebCrypto API can manage keys below the API boundary, avoiding the 
>>> sharing of keying material with the Javascript environment. This has 
>>> advantage in certain security models where the JS is less trusted than the 
>>> UA.
>>> 
>>> We are working on the specification of key import/export functions 
>>> including import/export of wrapped keys. Both these functions require an 
>>> explicit binary representation of the key material to be defined. In the 
>>> latter case it is required that not only the key itself is protected by the 
>>> wrapping operation, but also attributes associated with the key, most 
>>> importantly the "exportable" attribute which determines whether the key can 
>>> later be exported back to the JS layer.
>>> 
>>> JWK seems attractive for this purpose since it is straightforward to define 
>>> additional attributes to be carried with the key. The entire JWK JSON 
>>> structure would then be wrapped using the key wrapping algorithm (for 
>>> example AES Key Wrap).
>>> 
>>> WebCrypto supports public/private key pairs and symmetric keys. Hence JWK 
>>> would need to be extended to support private and symmetric keys to be used 
>>> for this purpose.
>>> 
>>> (2) Provision of keys to the HTML Encrypted Media Extensions "clear key" 
>>> keysystem 
>>> 
>>> The Encrypted Media Extensions provide an API for a script to interact with 
>>> a "Content Decryption Module" within the UA that provides key exchange and 
>>> content decryption capabilities. It is expected that the well-known DRM 
>>> vendors will provide "Content Decryption Modules" that are integrated into 
>>> browsers and/or that platform APIs for such modules will be available for 
>>> browsers to integrate with (e.g. in the case that the capability is present 
>>> within the OS on a given platform.)
>>> 
>>> Additionally, the W3C group itself will define a simple "clearkey" Content 
>>> Decryption Module in which the key is passed, in the clear, directly from 
>>> the JS to the UA. This keysystem has application in certain specific 
>>> security models (for example if the user is also the owner of the content) 
>>> and for testing.
>>> 
>>> The keying material is passed to the CDM in the form of an opaque 
>>> keysystem-specific byte array, which for clearkey must specify one or more 
>>> (symmetric, likely AES) keys and associated Key Ids. Again, JWK seems an 
>>> excellent simple candidate for this purpose, if it supported symmetric keys.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I understand that the JWK specification can be extended by registering the 
>>> necessary additional attributes with IANA on a "Specification Required" 
>>> basis. However, it was generally agreed in last week's W3C meetings that it 
>>> would be better if this work was done in the IETF JOSE group.
>>> 
>>> Therefore, the upshot of this email is to ask if there is support in the 
>>> IETF JOSE group for adding private and symmetric keys to JWK ?
>>> 
>>> I understand there is a draft for private keys already existing. I would be 
>>> more than happy to propose a draft for symmetric keys if there is interest 
>>> in progressing that here.
>>> 
>>> Finally, just to avoid any confusion, I should say that whilst the above 
>>> approaches had general support in last week's W3C meeting, this is not a 
>>> formal communication from the W3C (W3C groups tend not to send formal 
>>> "liaisons").
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Mark Watson
>>> Netflix
>>> 
>>> [1] 
>>> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media.html
>>> [2] 
>>> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/media-source/media-source.html
>>> [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/WebCryptoAPI/
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