FIRST POLL: YES, but only for top level keys.
SECOND POLL: YES
THIRD POLL: C, +1 for defining a ignorable parameters container key as Dick 
proposed.

On 2013/02/07, at 2:40, Dick Hardt <[email protected]> wrote:

> I misunderstood the Third Poll options.
> 
> I was thinking that all properties to be ignored would be a property of the 
> header object. ie. all ignorable properties are sub property of a "ignorable" 
> property.
> 
> eg. all "ign" properties can be ignored
> 
> { "alg": "ES256"
> , "ign": 
>       {  "notes":"this property can be ignored" }
> }
> 
> 
> So I am voting C for the third poll, a different option.
> 
> btw: I continue to be surprised that we are using JSON and only doing 
> name/value pairs.
> 
> -- Dick
> 
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Dick Hardt <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> FIRST POLL: Yes
>> 
>> SECOND POLL: YES
>> 
>> THIRD POLL: B
>> 
>> On Feb 4, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Karen O'Donoghue <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Folks,
>>> 
>>> I am wrestling with how to help drive consensus on the topic of criticality 
>>> of headers. For background, please review the current specification text, 
>>> the minutes to the Atlanta meeting (IETF85), and the mailing list 
>>> (especially the discussion in December with (Subj: Whether implementations 
>>> must understand all JOSE header fields)). We need to come to closure on 
>>> this issue in order to progress the specifications.
>>> 
>>> As a tool to gather further information on determining a way forward, the 
>>> following polls have been created. Please respond before 11 February 2013.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> *******************
>>> FIRST POLL: Should all header fields be critical for implementations to 
>>> understand?
>>> 
>>> YES – All header fields must continue to be understood by implementations 
>>> or the input must be rejected.
>>> 
>>> NO – A means of listing that specific header fields may be safely ignored 
>>> should be defined.
>>> 
>>> ********************
>>> SECOND POLL: Should the result of the first poll be "YES", should text like 
>>> the following be added? “Implementation Note: The requirement to understand 
>>> all header fields is a requirement on the system as a whole – not on any 
>>> particular level of library software. For instance, a JOSE library could 
>>> process the headers that it understands and then leave the processing of 
>>> the rest of them up to the application. For those headers that the JOSE 
>>> library didn’t understand, the responsibility for fulfilling the ‘MUST 
>>> understand’ requirement for the remaining headers would then fall to the 
>>> application.”
>>> 
>>> YES – Add the text clarifying that the “MUST understand” requirement is a 
>>> requirement on the system as a whole – not specifically on JOSE libraries.
>>> 
>>> NO – Don’t add the clarifying text.
>>> 
>>> ************************
>>> THIRD POLL: Should the result of the first poll be "NO", which syntax would 
>>> you prefer for designating the header fields that may be ignored if not 
>>> understood?
>>> 
>>> A – Define a header field that explicitly lists the fields that may be 
>>> safely ignored if not understood.
>>> 
>>> B – Introduce a second header, where implementations must understand all 
>>> fields in the first but they may ignore not-understood fields in the second.
>>> 
>>> C - Other??? (Please specify in detail.)
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>> 
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