It sounds to me like your approach is the best behavior for an
implementation.  Postel's law and all.


On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Brian Campbell
<[email protected]>wrote:

> I wasn't necessarily looking to make a change. Though interoperability is
> in sometimes in the eye of the beholder. Yes, I realize it's a defect but
> my implementation currently emits the coordinate value omitting the left
> zero padding bytes but will accept either input. So the MAY that Richard
> proposed would likely improve interoperability for me. It's not a hill I
> want to die on though so I'll zero-pad some arrays in my implementation.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Richard Barnes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Consistency with SEC1 seems like a compelling enough argument to me.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Mike Jones 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>  I'll also add that SEC1 (http://www.secg.org/collateral/sec1_final.pdf)
>>> requires that the full octet string be present, and we decided to base our
>>> representation on SEC1.  For instance, SEC1 says:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.1. Convert the field element * x**P *to an octet string *X *of length
>>> ceiling(log2 *q*/8) octets using the conversion
>>>
>>> routine specified in Section 2.3.5.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> and in SEC1 2.3.5:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Input: *An element *a * of the field F*q*.
>>>
>>> *Output: *An octet string *M *of length *mlen* = ceiling(log2 *q*/8)
>>> octets.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There's no compelling reason to special-case the situation in which some
>>> of the leading bits in the field element are zeros.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                             -- Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* jose [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mike Jones
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:29 PM
>>> *To:* Jim Schaad; 'Richard Barnes'; 'Brian Campbell'
>>>
>>> *Cc:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [jose] question about the size of coordinate parameters
>>> in EC JWKs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure.  See
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-jose-json-web-algorithms-20#section-6.2.1.2and
>>>  6.2.1.3.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                                             -- Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* jose [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Jim Schaad
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 12, 2014 5:50 PM
>>> *To:* 'Richard Barnes'; 'Brian Campbell'
>>> *Cc:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [jose] question about the size of coordinate parameters
>>> in EC JWKs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Would it be possible for somebody to give me a better reference pointer
>>> to the document that is begin reference?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* jose [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Richard Barnes
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:28 PM
>>> *To:* Brian Campbell
>>> *Cc:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [jose] question about the size of coordinate parameters
>>> in EC JWKs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That would make sense only for binary curves, but most of the curves
>>> people use today are integer curves, in which case truncation is totally
>>> sensible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been told that some Microsoft crypto libraries use fixed-length
>>> buffers for these things, but there should be a problem copying a shorter
>>> value into that buffer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Net of that, I would be in favor of saying that the coordinates MUST be
>>> full-length for binary curves, and MAY be zero-padded to full length for
>>> integer curves.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Brian Campbell <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Could anyone in this fine WG explain (probably again, I missed it the
>>> first time) the rational behind the text 'The length of this octet string
>>> MUST be the full size of a coordinate for the curve specified in the "crv"
>>> parameter.', which is in the definitions of the X and Y Coordinate
>>> parameters for EC keys in JWA [1]?
>>>
>>> This message last month on the list
>>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/jose/current/msg03901.html and an
>>> off list message indicate that both the jose4j and Nimbus JOSE+JWT
>>> implementations aren't following spec on the length of the octet string
>>> being the full size of a coordinate for the curve. Which suggests that
>>> there maybe potential interoperability problems with certain EC JWKs.
>>>
>>> I'm just trying to wrap my head around the issue so any help in that
>>> would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-jose-json-web-algorithms-20#section-6.2
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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