On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 at 21:15, Orie Steele <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks to Ilari for capturing suggested changes to
> draft-ietf-jose-hpke-encrypt-01 for "alg" and "enc".
>
> See:
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/jose/AQPIjws_5cjnCb_3S7UR688W4uM/
>
> We've discussed versions of this proposal for several months now, and I
> feel we probably need more formal consensus calls to identify a path
> forward.
>
> @[email protected] <[email protected]> please consider a formal
> consensus call for each of these topics, after applying any changes
> suggested on this thread as you see fit.
>
> I hope we can poll the room in person at IETF 120 as well.
>
> ## draft-ietf-jose-hpke-encrypt-01 call topic number 1 (Yes / No):
>
> ### For HPKE JWE Integrated Encryption Mode:
>
> The algorithm name SHALL be of the form "HPKE-P256-SHA256-A128GCM".
> The "enc" value SHALL be "dir".
> The working group SHALL draft text explaining what "enc:dir" means, and
> how it related to "alg".
> The algorithm name SHALL be of the form "HPKE-P256-SHA256-A128GCM".
> The hpke-aad SHALL be of the form "protected (.aad)", as described in Step
> 15 of RFC7516.
> The hpke-info SHALL be the same as is provided to concatKDF info for
> ECDH-ES, as described in
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7518#section-4.6.2
>

I would like add another option proposed below for HPKE JWE Integrated
Encryption Mode:

The algorithm name SHALL be of the form "HPKE-P256-SHA256".
The "enc" value SHALL be " A128GCM".
The hpke-aad SHALL be of the form "protected (.aad)", as described in Step
15 of RFC7516.
The hpke-info SHALL be the same as is provided to concatKDF info for
ECDH-ES, as described in
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7518#section-4.6.2

-Tiru


>
>
> ## draft-ietf-jose-hpke-encrypt-01 call topic number 2 (Yes / No):
>
> ### For HPKE JWE Key Encryption Mode:
>
> The algorithm name SHALL be of the form "HPKE-P256-SHA256-A128GCM".
> The "enc" value SHALL be any registered AEAD here -
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/jose/jose.xhtml, per section of RFC7518.
> The hpke-info SHALL be the same as is provided to concatKDF info for
> ECDH-ES, as described in
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7518#section-4.6.2
> The hpke-aad shall be empty.
>
> If either of these fails (rough consensus no), let's run through each
> statement in a formal consensus call, this way we can eliminate ambiguity
> for authors, and authors can propose solutions to only the problems where
> there is working group disagreement on the proposed solution in the current
> draft.
>
> This will end much faster if we can establish consensus to eliminate some
> variables.
>
> Regards,
>
> OS
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> ORIE STEELE
> Chief Technology Officer
> www.transmute.industries
>
> <https://transmute.industries>
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