Raised PR https://github.com/tireddy2/PQC_JOSE_COSE/pull/18 to replace
"OKP" with "AKP" and for further discussion in the WG to pick one.


-Tiru

On Wed, 24 Sept 2025 at 12:09, tirumal reddy <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Sept 2025 at 10:29, John Mattsson <john.mattsson=
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Tschofenig, Hannes wrote:
>>
>> >I would like to request that the chairs make a consensus call so that
>> we can close this issue and move the draft forward.
>>
>>
>> In Madrid we actually had two polls:
>>
>>     Poll - Should OKP be used for PQC KEM Keys
>>
>>     Yes 0 / No 5/ No Opinion 7
>>
>>
>>
>>     Poll - Should we use AKP
>>
>>     Yes 5 / No 1 / No Opinion 10
>>
>>
>> As suggested by Brian, my expectation is that the authors update the
>> draft to reflect this. Then, we can take the discussion from there.
>>
>
> Sure, we will publish the revised draft.
>
> Cheers,
> -Tiru
>
>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Filip Skokan <[email protected]>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, 23 September 2025 at 15:32
>> *To: *Brian Campbell <[email protected]>
>> *Cc: *Tschofenig, Hannes <[email protected]>, [email protected] <
>> [email protected]>
>> *Subject: *[jose] Re: Suggestion to conclude the key type discussion in
>> the PQC KEM draft
>>
>> +1 to what Brian said. I brought up the same points in July asking for
>> the current draft to reflect the outcomes of Polls taken but alas the draft
>> is still using OKP that there was never consensus for and shouldn't have
>> been switched to - thread starts here
>> <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/jose/Rcqv4rDYPh4BT1wm8fLWn02DILo/>
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>> S pozdravem,
>> *Filip Skokan*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 22 Sept 2025 at 23:24, Brian Campbell <bcampbell=
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> There might be reason to resurface this discussion but the use of OKP
>> was definitely not the “clear winner” at and around the last meeting. There
>> was not consensus to switch away from AKP in the first place, and the
>> poll that was run on whether to use OKP had a very clear outcome: "Poll -
>> Should OKP be used for PQC KEM Keys: Yes 0 / No 5/ No Opinion 7" from
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-123-jose-202507241500/.
>> The draft-ietf-jose-pqc-kem published should reflect that outcome as the
>> baseline before any consensus call is made.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 8:50 AM Tschofenig, Hannes <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have read the mailing list discussion around key types in the PQC KEM
>> draft (draft-ietf-jose-pqc-kem). This might seem like an unexciting detail.
>> After all, who really cares about the name of the structure in which the
>> key is embedded? Yet, quite to my surprise, it has turned out that there
>> are multiple views on the subject.
>>
>>
>>
>> From what I can see, there is no obvious “clear winner” among the three
>> candidates (“OKP”, “AKP”, and a new key type). In fact, it is striking how
>> many different key types we already have in the JOSE ecosystem.
>>
>>
>>
>> The good news, however, is that whichever option we select, the
>> implementation effort is minimal.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would request the chairs to make a consensus call so that we can close
>> this issue and move on with the draft.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ciao
>>
>> Hannes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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