He doesn't get special treatment. He publicly asked for agenda time. I
didn't see a reason to not give him that time.

Karen

On Tue, Nov 4, 2025 at 1:52 PM Tschofenig, Hannes
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi JOSE chairs,
>
>
>
> I wonder why Brian gets special treatment in this working group.
>
>
>
> Ciao
>
> Hannes
>
>
>
> Von: Karen ODonoghue <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Karen ODonoghue
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 2. November 2025 19:07
> An: Brian Campbell <[email protected]>
> Cc: JOSE WG <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> Betreff: [jose] Re: JOSE-HPKE @ 124? (was Re: (very) draft agenda for JOSE @ 
> IETF 124)
>
>
>
> Hi Brian,
>
>
>
> I’ve added you to the agenda for the JOSE-HPKE discussion. Please submit 
> slides if you plan to use them.
>
>
>
> Karen
>
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2025, at 4:41 PM, Brian Campbell <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
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>
>
> Thanks Karen (and the jose chairs),
>
>
>
> Could I have some of the time allotted for JOSE-HPKE to continue the 
> discussion from IETF 123?
>
>
>
> At the last meeting, I made an impassioned plea for some improvements to the 
> jose-hpke-encrypt (improvements that I strongly expect will be necessary 
> eventually, even in the absence of my pleas). I left that meeting with the 
> impression that there was interest in pursuing those improvements, and with 
> the understanding that the authors would reach out to me and a few others to 
> collaborate toward that goal.
>
>
>
> However, no author has reached out, nor has any work on the draft progressed 
> in that direction.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 4:11 PM Karen ODonoghue <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Below is the draft agenda for the JOSE meeting next week. It obviously isn’t 
> quite finished, but I wanted to get something uploaded. Please send me any 
> requests, errors, or ommissions. Please also send a quick email to 
> [email protected] to confirm responsible person and rough time estimate.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Karen (for the jose chairs)
>
>
>
> DRAFT AGENDA:
>
>
>
> JOSE Working Group @ IETF 124
>
> Wednesday, 3 November 2025
>
>
9:30 - 11:30 UTC (UTC -4)
>
> St Denis
>
>
>
> Notes: https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-124-jose
>
>
>
> Please check https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/124/agenda for an updated 
> link to the meetecho session.
>
>
>
> Draft Agenda
>
>
>
> 1.  Admin, Agenda Bash, document status (Chairs,)
>
>
>
> 2.  JSON Web Proof Drafts (TBD, ?)
>
>
>
> JSON Web Proofs 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-json-web-proof/
>
> JSON Proof Algorithms 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-json-proof-algorithms/
>
>
JSON Proof Token 
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-json-proof-token/
>
>
>
> 3.  Use of Hybrid Public Key Encryption (HPKE) with JSON Object Signing and 
> Encryption (JOSE) (TBD, ?)

> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-hpke-encrypt/
>
>
>
> 4.  Post-Quantum Key Encapsulation Mechanisms (PQ KEMs) for JOSE and COSE 
> (TBD, ?)
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-pqc-kem/
>
>
>
> 5.  JOSE: Deprecate ‘none’ and ‘RSA1_5’ (?, 10 min)
>
>
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jose-deprecate-none-rsa15/
>
> 6.  PQ/T Hybrid Composite Signatures for JOSE and COSE (Prabel, ?)
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-prabel-jose-pq-composite-sigs/
>
>
>
> 7.  Designated Verifier Signatures for JOSE (?, 10 min)
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bastian-jose-dvs/
>
> 8.  Public Key Derived HMAC for JOSE
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bastian-jose-pkdh/
>
>
>
> 9. AOB
>
>
>
>
>
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