On 25/01/2008 17:02, Gervase Markham wrote: > David Earl wrote: >> I think this is confusing. I would expect SHIFT-DRAG starting in an >> open area to ADD to the selected set, > > It will. Please read the design page :-) My point is that there is a > small restriction on drag-select, which is that you can only do it in an > additive fashion. If you wish to have the selection be only the things > you drag-select, then you need to clear any existing selection before > you do the drag-select. > >> Most graphics apps work like that. If the density is so great that you >> can't decide whether you're selecting and area or dragging, I would >> suggest that you don't realistically know what you would select anyway >> and that you would have to zoom in to get it right anyway. > > I am only attempting to respond to a problem which participants on this > list tell me is real. > > I suppose there is no reason why unmodified drag, starting in an empty > area, should not do a (resetting) drag-select.
Which is exactly what I'm asking for. > But people seem to think > that this should not be the only method. Perhaps because they didn't read the design page either ! SHIFT-DRAG with nothing selected would add to an empty set, so would do does exactly the same as DRAG, except that it avoids the possibility of a MOVE happening accidentally. Great, let's have both. On 25/01/2008 17:01, Petr Nejedly wrote: > What is your use case for drag-select in JOSM anyway? I haven't > used it even once yet! I use it frequently. It's particularly useful if a way is composed of segments which are too small to avoid easily selecting the nodes instead. So I (shift)drag over the way and then deselect the nodes I don't want in the selection pane. This avoids zooming in and out when I'm mostly working at a scale where all but a few of the ways are large enough not to need to do this. Maybe zooming in would be quicker, but by the time I've tried to get a hit on the way and failed and it somehow seems easier to area select. David _______________________________________________ josm-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/josm-dev
