Am 04.08.2010 01:19, schrieb Frederik Ramm:
Ulf,
P.S: Yes, this isn't a theoretical situation. While riding my
motorbike, I frequently have a lot of such tiny changes spread over a
huge area.
Perhaps we can try to be a bit more reasonable about this.
That's what I'm trying to do.
I have the impression that those who oppose changeset comments,
including you, think that they are expected to write an essay.
In software development, I've written anything from "shit!" to a 1000
chars essay what's going wrong - or simply nothing.
That's the thing: It *really* depends on the situation ...
The way I like to think of this is: If you speak to another mapper later
that day, and they ask you "what you've been up to?" and you answer them
in one sentence - that's what you should put as a changeset comment.
Sounds like a good rule of thumb how to add comments - a thing we just
still miss.
I agree that if you were to add 100 POIs and upload each in their own
changeset, it would be tedious to actually put an *individual* changeset
comment to each. Ideally, you would keep a changeset open and have them
all in one changeset, but if you must have lots of mini-changesets with
only one or two changes each, then that's a case where I'd just re-use
the same changeset comment. After all, if you *had* put them all in one
changeset then the comment would have been "added POIs from motorcycle
survey".
I've tried to add all of the changes in one rush. This too often
resulted in an OutOfMemoryException. Not a situation I want to upload
something.
So my habit becomes to upload (very) tiny locations.
I think we should find the best way to make as many users as possible
understand why changeset comments are useful, and supply them as good as
they can when they use JOSM.
I'll perfectly agree.
If the best way to do that turns out to
actually drop any user nannying in JOSM and just put a decent
explanation in the user manual or so, I'm game.
My idea is that JOSM should explain (or links to help) why those
comments are useful and help the user how those could look like (in a
guideful but neutral language).
But if the user turns out to ignore those info (for whatever reason),
it's not JOSMs job to enforce those comments.
Regards, ULFL
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