dear friends in christ,
i find it surprisinf that anyone should feel offended by the story the
hail mary of a protestant ,it only reinststates the truth,the catholic
church alone is the ark of salvation founded by JESUS CHRIST,the catholic
church is the only way to salvation,all those separate from her are heretics
and schismatics,this was solemnly proclaimed by the church time and again
most recently in the vatican document DOMINUS IESUS by cardinal
ratzinger,the document even says that protestants,or orthodox or marthomites
or whatever else theyre called cant be churches in the true sense of the
term,all those who leave the church imperil their own salvation,these days
we seem to have a false ecumenism which shamelessly embraces the dissident
churches , the true purpose of ecumenism is to lead them to the one true
church i,e the catholic church and also regarding marys role in our
salvation st.montfort the greatest exponent of marian devotion says that
without believing in the marian dogmas one cannot be saved i suppose you
know that the marian truths are solemnly defined as dogmas by the church
the church teaches that it is essential to believe in dogmas to be saved and
the marian dogmas are as follows
1.mary mother of god
2.mary perrrpetual virgin
3.immaculate conception
4.assumption
millions of people are petitioning the holy father to proclaim the fifth
marian dogma i,e mary,s role as our co-redemptrice
famous petionaries included mother teresa, cardinal o connor of new york,and
our own cardinal padiyara
for more info go to www.voxpouli.org
IN CHRIST
r.sandeep joseph
chennai
>From: sheril daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [JOYnet] Re: the hail mary of a protestant
>Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 08:27:43 -0700 (PDT)
>
>dear friends,
>i am very hurt by this story.
>i have read it on joynet before. for obvious reasons i find this story very
>prejudiced. this person is portrayed as a hero, well and good. and yes, it
>is a story promoting intercession thru mother mary. well and good. but what
>gives this man the right to condemn the faith of the protestant church? is
>he a priest? then he should know that salvation is through our lord Jesus
>Christ. i am a marthomite. hence i suppose i would be classified under the
>"protestant" group of churches. one "separated from the true church of
>christ founded on the rock (Peter) and against whom the gates of hell shall
>never prevail" as quoted in the story. I AM SORRY, BUT I REFUSE TO BELIEVE
>THAT! as marthomites we believe in salvation through Jesus Christ. He died
>for each one of us on the cross. He shed His blood for my sins. He was
>whipped for my sicknesses. He suffered so that i would be saved. if this is
>the basis of a church (besides catholic church) i don't see why that church
>would be "separate!
>d" from christ. i don't believe that as a marthomite, i am in any way less
>entitled ot the kindom of God than a catholic based on whether i pray to
>mary or not.
>there are differences in some beliefs, yes. like in our church we do not
>intercede thru mother mary. but we do revere her as a holy mother. we do
>not think of her as an ordinary woman. no. but where in the bible does it
>say that if u don't pray to mther mary you will not go to heaven? see, i'm
>not saying one church is right or another is wrong. it is not up to me to
>condemn any religion either. Jesus said that true religion is looking after
>widows and orphans. the religious culture, the laws of the church, the
>ceremonies, the way in which ppl pray, these are not the most important
>things. what is most important is whetehr you have accepted Jesus as your
>personal saviour or not. everything else is there to lead u to him not to
>condemn other churches. even praying to mother mary. is she there to take
>the importance or is she there to guide children to Jesus? i like to think
>it is the latter. maybe it is difficult for some catholics to accept the
>fact that as christians, God is!
> not looking at what church one comes from, what background one has, or
>what way one prays. He is looking at the heart. do you have Jesus in there
>or not. i am not saying that protestants are not always biased against
>catholics. we are the generation that has to change all of this bitching
>and bickering between both churches. as christians we are one. if that is
>not the attitude that u have, then that must change first. i am not a
>catholic but the reason why i am in joynet is not because i want to be a
>catholic. but it is because i am a young christian who wants fellowship
>with other such christians.
>
>in Jesus
>
>sheril daniel
>
>grahamstown, south africa
>
>
>
>
>
>The Hail Mary of a Protestant
>(A true story)
>
>A little six-year-old Protestant boy had often heard his Catholic
>companions reciting the prayer "Hail Mary." He like it so much
>that he copied it,memorized it and would recite it every day.
>"Look, Mommy, what a beautiful prayer," he said to his mother one
>day.
>
>"Never again say it," answered the mother. "It is a superstitious
>prayer of Catholics who adore idols and think Mary a goddess.
>After all, she is a woman like any other. Come on, take this Bible
>and read it. It contains everything that we are bound to do and
>have to do." From that day on the little boy discontinued his
>daily "Hail Mary" and gave himself more time to reading the Bible
>instead.
>
>One day, while reading the Gospel, he came across the passage
>about the Annunciation of the Angel to Our Lady. Full of joy, the
>little boy ran to his mother and said: "Mommy, I have found the
>'Hail Mary' in the Bible which says: 'Hail full of grace, the Lord
>is with thee, blessed art thou amongst women.' Why do you call it
>a superstitious prayer?"
>
>On another occasion he found that beautiful Salutation of St.
>Elizabeth to the Virgin Mary and the wonderful canticle MAGNIFICAT
>in which Mary foretold that "the generations would call her
>blessed."He said no more about it to his mother but started to
>recite the "Hail Mary" every day as before. He felt pleasure in
>addressing those charming words to the Mother of Jesus, our
>Savior.
>
>When he was fourteen, he one day heard a discussion on Our Lady
>among the members of his family. Every one said that Mary was a
>common woman like any other woman. The boy, after listening to
>their erroneous reasoning could not bear it any longer, and full
>of indignation, he interrupted them,saying:
>"Mary is not like any other children of Adam, stained with sin.No!
>The Angel called her FULL OF GRACE AND BLESSED AMONGST WOMEN. Mary
>is the Mother of Jesus Christ and consequently Mother of God.
>There is no higher dignity to which a creature can be raised. The
>Gospel says that the generations will proclaim her blessed and you
>are trying to despise her and look down on her. Your spirit is not
>the spirit of the Gospel or of the Bible which you proclaim to be
>the foundation of the Christian religion."
>
>So deep was the impression which the boy's talk had made that his
>mother many times cried out sorrowfully: "Oh my God! I fear that
>this son of mine will one day join the Catholic religion, the
>religion of Popes!" And indeed, not very long afterwards, having
>made a serious study of both Protestantism and Catholicism, the
>boy found the latter to be the only true religion and embraced it
>and became one of its most ardent apostles.
>
>Some time after his conversion, he met his married sister who
>rebuked him and said indignantly: "You little know how much I love
>my children. Should any one of them desire to become a Catholic, I
>would sooner pierce his heart with a dagger than allow him to
>embrace the religion of the Popes!"
>
>Her anger and temper were as furious as those of St. Paul before
>his conversion. However, she would change her ways, just as St.
>Paul did on his way to Damascus. It so happened that one of her
>sons fell dangerously ill and the doctors gave up hope of
>recovery. Her brother then approached her and spoke to her
>affectionately, saying: "My dear sister, you naturally wish to
>have your child cured. Very well, then, do what I ask you to do.
>Follow me, let us pray one 'Hail Mary' and promise God that, if
>your son recovers his health, you would seriously study the
>Catholic doctrine, and should you come to the conclusion that
>Catholicism is the only true religion, you would embrace it no
>matter what the sacrifices may be."
>
>His sister was somewhat reluctant at the beginning, but as she
>wished for her son's recovery, she accepted her brother's proposal
>and recited the"Hail Mary" together with him. The next day her son
>was completely cured. The mother fulfilled her promise and she
>studied the Catholic doctrine.
>
>After long preparation she received Baptism together with her
>whole family, thanking her brother for being an apostle to her.
>The story was related during a sermon given by the Rev. Fr.
>Tuckwell.
>"Brethren," he said, "The boy who became a Catholic and converted
>his sister to Catholicism dedicated his whole life to the service
>of God. He is the priest who is speaking to you now! What I am I
>owe to Our Lady. You, too, my dear brethren, be entirely dedicated
>also to Our Lady and never let a day pass without saying the
>beautiful prayer, 'Hail Mary',and your Rosary. Ask her to
>enlighten the minds of Protestants who are separated from the true
>Church of Christ founded on the Rock (Peter) and 'against whom the
>gates of hell shall never prevail.'"
>
>
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