Hi friends,
Just wanted to put up my comments on this subject. We all know that suicide
is a sin. Killing whether it be of self or of another person of course is
condemned in the 10 commandments. The point now is whether praying for a
dead sinner makes any difference to the salvation of that person. In Matt
12:32 Jesus Himself tells of an afterlife where sins will be forgiven. He
talks of two worlds where sins will be forgiven i.e. 'in this world' and
'the world to come'.
[M't:12:32: And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall
be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not
be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.]
This clearly depicts of another world after the death of a person, where
sins can be forgiven i.e 'the world to come'.
We also have proof in 1 Peter 3:18 to 4:6 where Peter from 3:18 goes on to
4:6 and tells of how Christ after being killed on the cross visited the
'spirits in prison' i.e the spirits of those who were disobedient in the
days of Noah. It is said that Christ went to them and preached the gospel to
them so that in their life as spirits they might 'live according to God in
the spirit'.
[1Pe:3:18: For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the
unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but
quickened by the Spirit:19: By which also he went and preached unto the
spirits in prison;20: Which sometime were disobedient, when once the
longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a
preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
1Pe:4:6: For for this cause was the gospel preached also
to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the
flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.]
This again depicts a world where God preaches to those who are already dead
so that they might live in obedience to God in their lives as spirits. In
short they are given another chance to be in God's fold.
We read in Genesis of how big the sins of those people spoken of here were.
In the context of the Rich man who came to Jesus we see Jesus first telling
of how difficult it is for the rich to enter the kingdom and later goes on
to say 'With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.'
(M't:19:23 to 26). Our God is a loving God. His likeness is that of love. He
is full of mercy and compassion and it is solely because that He loves us
that He sacrificed His only Son on the cross to save us, to make us part of
His family.
Our loving Father will not turn down an appeal for mercy by one of His own
children for another. Praise the Lord.
Regards in Christ,
Samji / Dubai
>From: "Paul M Mathew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Paul M Mathew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Re: [JOYnet] Suicide : A Query (My comments)
>Date: 11 Jul 2002 05:35:36 -0000
>
>Hi Jennifer, Jason & JY's,
> Interesting discussion !
>What if a person disobeys the very first law (i.e. prays to an idol) and
>dies with his faith in the idol. Is there forgiveness still ?
>Concerning this, there is this interesting chapter in the Bible: Maccabees
>Chapter 12: v32-50.
>
>In short, Judas offered prayers and sacrifices (like 12000 drachmas of
>silver to Jerusalem) for the sins of the dead.
>and verse 49 says: It is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for
>the dead, that they may be loosed from sins.
>
>Praise be to our Merciful God,
>Paul Mathew.
>
>On Mon, 08 Jul 2002 Jennifer wrote :
>>Hi Jason & JY's,
>>
>>A very good question I must say.
>>
>>I was just pondering over this question after the death of one of my
>>parishioner
>>last week. Since I was praying for his soul...........and I wondered
>>whether my
>>prayers wud really help him???
>>
>>And as I pondered over this question, a thought came to me........our God
>>is an
>>awesome God.........He is very loving and forgiving. When we as human
>>beings,
>>we pray for the souls & feel that all souls shud be save..........how much
>>more
>>will God the Creator must be wanting that all Souls shud be saved. We
>>don't
>>know what happens when a person faces death.........I believe that in a
>>fraction
>>of time before the person breathes his last....... God, most merciful
>>gives the
>>soul yet another chance to repent...........and if the soul in those brief
>>moments does repent ..........will he still deserve hell???? No........the
>>soul
>>will defintely be saved. And if the soul is in purgatory, then our
>>prayers will
>>hel
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