My Dear JYs and more especially PJ I think after the plethora of mails we received from Josun, Ravi, Abby, Sibi, Jennifer and many others we would all agree that yeah Sex before marriage is not permissiable and yeah it is a Sin. A rather one sided debate. I am sure that if any1 was to even contradict, this forum is the last place where he is gonna do that ;)
But I want to ask one question to PJ who initially posted this question out here whether Sex before marriage is permissable. I want to know Permissable to whom???. To ur parents, society, pre-life partner, God or to urself. I am sure he must have meant God. For his next question is - is it a Sin ??. Tricky. For that i would like ask is can anything which is permissible by God be a Sin??? also if something is not permissible by God is it a Sin???. Wow I can actually feel the dilemma of PJ. Had PJ been only asked if sex before marraige is permissible i guess his obvious reply would have been no. But then his Hindu Friend said that the Bible say it is Permissible and so he was surprised. I guess he was stumped so well his next line of defence - "I said as per the church and christian values it is not permissable and it is sin". I remember this incident which was told me by my friend. He had this debate with his Hindu Friend once. I am sending it forth in his own words. "-----I told him give me the instance which shows in my bible that Premarital Sex is permissible. He laughed at me. And opened the first pages of my bible. Adam and Eve. I laughed at him. I said show me where it is permissible. He again showed me Adam and Eve. I said again show me where it is written that it is permissible. Now he understood. He looked at me blankly." That is the difference guys. There is a vast difference between something being mentioned and between something being permissible. The very act of it being permissible by God constitutes the Sacrament of Marraige. Remember I said permissible BY God and not TO God. Or else we have those great elope kahanis. I wed u. U wed me. I put garland on u. U put garland on me and we are married :).. Tomorrow i preserve ur Garland for some1 else ;) As Ravi wisely mentioned in his mail. "Just because it is written in the bible doesnt mean it is acceptable." I guess the mails from Ravi and Jennifer have already thaught us what is Sin. speaking of Christmas Cake with relevance to this topic I would like to conclude with no one eats their OWN wedding cake either before their marraige. ;) PJ i hope this list is able to satisfy ur query. urs in faith Jason Mumbai, India. PJ u can ask ur hindu friend this. It seems Bharata from which the name "Bharat" our own India has derived its name from was born out of a premarital relationship between Shakuntala, a maiden, daughter of sage Kanva, and Dushyanta a King. These guys even go to the extent where in the Mahabharata, Kunti, the mother of the Pandavas, begets a son (Karna) from the Sun before her marriage to Pandu. This is what is mentioned in ur Friend's religion. Does it mean that Premarital Sex is permissable in their religion. Looking at an average hindu view to such a topic is enough to gauge his response. ======================================================== Smooth seas don't make skillful sailors ----- Original Message ----- From: philipose joseph To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:27 PM Subject: [JOYnet] Sex before marriage is permissable? is it Sin? Hi, One of my Hindu friends asked, Sex before marriage is permissable? is it Sin? if they decided to get marry later. "He quote as per bible it is permissable" I surprised. I said as per the church and christian values it is not permissable and it is sin. Sex is only permitted in the sacrament of marriage. Please put you comments on joynet so that everyone can read. bye PJ ________________________________________________________________________ =========================================================================== ==== This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. 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