Both reasonable requests - landed the changes:
http://github.com/jquery/jquery/commit/6cf981eea20695987b4f7341f80442a7cf8271eb

Thanks!

--John



On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:39 AM, candlerb <b.cand...@pobox.com> wrote:
> On Dec 31, 3:29 am, John Resig <jere...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Umm, hmm - &> is perfectly valid shell - used for redirecting both
>> stdout and stderr 
>> simultaneously:http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#Redirectionshttp://dsl.org/cookbook/cookbook_5.html#SEC57
>
> Yes, but not all shells are bash, and bash implements a ton of
> extensions beyond POSIX.
>
> The default shell in Ubuntu is dash: "Only features designated by
> POSIX, plus a few Berkeley extensions, are being incorporated into
> this shell" [from the manpage]
>
> BSD users are also likely to be affected if you rely on bash features.
>
> The POSIX way to redirect both stdout and stderr is:   >/dev/null 2>&1
>
>> Also - why is there an empty src/sizzle directory? That shouldn't be
>> there to begin with
>
> Well I'm not sure. Maybe I typed 'make' before 'make init' when I
> first downloaded. But it could also be because of the '&'
> backgrounding, because the makefile would continue executing before
> the git clone had completed.
>
>> Deleting it isn't really desired since that would do a
>> complete, fresh, clone every single time a build is done
>
> But I'm only deleting it if it's entirely empty: rmdir will fail if
> the directory has any contents.
>
> Perhaps a better solution is to change
>
> @@if test ! -d src/sizzle; then git clone ,,,
>
> to
>
> @@if test ! -d src/sizzle/.git; then git clone ...
>
>> We're intentionally not using git submodules because the submodules
>> need to be constantly re-synced with the HEAD of the other project
>
> Fair enough, I can see that's annoying if the other project is fast-
> moving too.
>
> Submodules would have the the advantage that if someone says they have
> checked out commit XXXX of jquery, and can demonstrate a bug, you will
> be able to reproduce it directly; otherwise they have to tell you the
> commit IDs of jquery *and* sizzle etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> Brian.
>
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