There is an issue with SHTML and POST'd parameters.
Several developers, myself included, have requested, both on
the support forums and here, an update/fix from Allaire.
To date, nada.
I expect that there'll be an update to JRun 3.0
sometime. Has anyone heard of one?
W
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Senter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 3:51 PM
Subject: RE: SHTML files
> Forgive me...it's been a rough week. I'm sensitive. =)
>
> -Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 09:29
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: SHTML files
>
>
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Matt Senter wrote:
>
> > Woah, hey, calm down. You're stressing. It'll be ok. Really. Try
> > some yoga or something. =) This sort of thing is frustrating for
> > both sides.
> [ ... ]
>
> Well, FWIW, I didn't think Scott was talking down to you (until that
> last message, of course :-), and don't recall him doing so at all
> previously, let alone "frequently".
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Stirling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 09:09
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: SHTML files
> >
> >
> > Listen, I had to RTFM like everyone else. If you had read Chapter 13 of
> > "Developing Applications with JRun," I didn't think you would have asked
> the
> > question "What is JRun attempting to do with these files, and why
doesn't
> it
> > work?"
> >
> > I think I tried a little to hard to politely suggest reading the manual
> last
> > time, which you took as talking down to you. If I talk down to people
> > "quite frequently," I should re-examine the way I communicate on this
list
> I
> > guess. What if I just said "RTFM, dude?" Even though I'm on this list
> > somewhat voluntarily, I don't think my colleagues at Allaire or on this
> list
> > would think that very professional of me.
> >
> > If we can go back to the issue you were concerned with, the answer is
that
> > JRun's SSI capabilities are limited. I don't know where we advertise
that
> > we fully support SSI, or what standard of SSI we say we support
anywhere,
> > but the truth is, it's limited. We sure don't execute PERL and CGI
> scripts,
> > nor do we implement Apache's XSSI (is that right?). If we amended the
> docs
> > to state that explicitly, would that have helped?
> >
> > Scott Stirling
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matt Senter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 2:46 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: SHTML files
> > >
> > >
> > > Right, well my question was "Why does JRun mishandle SHTML
> > > files?" Not "How
> > > do I disable them?" I've known for a while how to disable
> > > them. I basically
> > > only wanted to know why JRun boasts that it can handle SHTML
> > > files, when it
> > > actually can't. Or if it could, I was wondering how it could
> > > be possible.
> > > And if it can't, why is it even mentioned or attempted? You
> > > see, I'm trying
> > > to explore all the features of this product I bought. And
> > > while it may be
> > > annoying for you to see questions posted that to you are
> > > trivial, you should
> > > avoid talking down to people on this list as I've noticed you do quite
> > > frequently. If I'm not mistaken, the purpose of this list is
> > > to toss around
> > > issues with JRun in hopes of finding solutions...as an
> > > alternative to paying
> > > the outrageous support fees. I have read the documentation thoroughly.
> > >
> > > I know what Ctrl-F is,
> > > -Matt
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Scott Stirling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 08:22
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: SHTML files
> > >
> > >
> > > If I may, please allow me to recommend perusing the
> > > documentation a bit. I
> > > notice you've been having a lot of problems, and while some
> > > are undoubtedly
> > > due to bugs in the product, others, like this one, could be
> > > resolved with a
> > > Ctrl-F and search for keywords in the docs.
> > >
> > > *.shtml is an "implicit mapping," like /servlet and *.jsp.
> > > It's defined
> > > globally, and can be overridden locally, but to totally
> > > disable it you've
> > > got to comment it out in global.properties. JRun has limited SSI
> > > capability. It can handle virtual includes and <servlet>
> > > tags, but not much
> > > else. So if you need to have Apache handle the SSI
> > > directives, you should
> > > disable that mapping in JRun.
> > >
> > > In my experience, not that many people need/want to use JRun's SSI
> > > capability. I also think it should be configurable from the
> > > JMC (and it may
> > > be in the future, along with the other implicit mappings),
> > > but for now it's
> > > in there and you have to change it by editing the properties manually.
> > >
> > > Scott Stirling
> > > Allaire Corporation
> > > http://www.allaire.com/developer/jrunreferencedesk/
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Matt Senter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 1:31 PM
> > > > To: Jrun-Talk@Houseoffusion. Com
> > > > Subject: SHTML files
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > JRun just doesn't seem to like .shtml files. I have to
> > > comment out the
> > > > ssi-filter for my servers for my Sites to function properly.
> > > > What is JRun
> > > > attempting to do with these files, and why doesn't it work?
> > > > For example, for
> > > > Sites sharing the same IP as virtualhosts, each index.shtml
> > > page will
> > > > forward to the index page of one particular Site. Any help would be
> > > > appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -Matt
>
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