Yes, the concern with in-process is the single point of failure. 
With stand-alone, Jrun, like most servlet engines, has its own web server and
can take requests directly. So, no you don't need a web server to use it. 
But, the web server built into Jrun and most servlet engines is pretty
rudimentary, doesn't scale well, and is not intended for general production
use.  



Bruce Altner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. I didn't realize you could chose your own connector 
> with JRun. But I have another question or two: why would your company's 
> Apache solution be more stable than an in-process solution? Is this a 
> single-point-of failure issue, e.g., not wanting a problem in the servlet 
> engine to take down the entire Web site?
> 
> Even though you say it's obvious, I'm not sure what a stand-alone is (You 
> still need a Web server, don't you?), nor why it is inherently 
> inferior.  Please explain what this is.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bruce
> 
> At 12:49 AM 8/27/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi Bruce,
> >Over the past year I've been working with and testing servlet engines and
> >configurations both for my home based web business and my employer. 
Here's
> >the info you need:
> >You're choices are in-process, as with Netscape server, out-of-process, as
> >with Apache and mod_jserv, and stand-alone.  I think the reasons for not
using
> >a stand-alone servlet engine are obvious.  In-process vs out-of-process is
a
> >trade off between speed and stability.  For my little home based web
business
> >where speed is a greater issue than stability I use an in-process servlet
> >engine (JavaWebServer).  But, for my employer where stabilty is as great
an
> >issue as speed we're using Apache with Jrun and the mod_jserv connector.
> >
> >Bruce Altner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > ---------------------------------------------
> > >       Attachment:
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> > > Greetings:
> > >
> > > I'm part of a team working on a project to evaluate performance issues
> > > concerning implementing servlets and JSPs for our customer, which is a
big
> > > government agency. The end result will be a series of recommendations to
go
> >
> > > or not to go in this direction and, if it's a go (as appears likely),
to
> > > also recommend implementation strategies.
> > >
> > > Every time the subject of JRun as a servlet engine comes up at our
meetings
> >
> > > someone voices the opinion that because it's an add-on to the web
server,
> > > via the connector, instead an integral part of the server itself (e.g.,
as
> > > in Netscape server), that it would be slower. While this sounds
reasonable,
> >
> > > I was wondering if there is any data to back this up. Does anyone know
of
> > > studies done to evaluate the performance of application server/servlet
> > > engine products and whether these indeed show that plug-in engines are
any
> > > slower than those already built into the server?
> > >
> > > Actually, I'm interested in detailed performance
evaluations/comparisons
> > > involving any aspect of server-side Java and would appreciate leads
there
> >too.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Bruce Altner
> >
> >
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