Yeah,

Practicality issues out the roof is what I was trying to push before.

Matt

Matthew L. Wright
Java Internet Programmer
Jupiter One
Web World Studios West Coast
www.jupiterone.com
(818) 763-2927
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Stirling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JRun-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: Scrambling Code


> Commercial obfuscators allow you to choose which methods/classes to
> obfuscate, including method names.
>
> So say you have a bean that's supported by a set of utility classes.  How
> many entry points does that bean have from the JSP pages?  Whatever they
> are, you can choose to not obfuscate the method/class names.  And then you
> can freely obfuscate all non-public methods and classes in that bean and
its
> supporting classes.
>
> However, the fact is that if anyone wants to decompile your byte code and
> figure it out, they can (with the help of other tools), but who's going to
> go through the effort?  Do you suspect your client would be willing to
> violate your license agreement and steal your stuff?  I guess you've got
to
> consider it on a per-client evaluation.
>
> Obfuscating code makes debugging in the field difficult.  Consider that in
> your decision.  My personal inclincation is to say, consider whether your
> intellectual property is worth the effort and cost to try to protect it
> (other than through licensing).  There are only so many ways to skin a cat
> in a Web-app or J2EE app, and it's all based on open APIs.
>
> Scott Stirling
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: JRun-Talk
> Sent: 3/23/01 11:26 PM
> Subject: RE: RE: Scrambling Code
>
> THe problem with that is that it will scramble the class names and the
> function names, etc, so how can you use those in your jsp pages?
>
> Travis
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: Sanjay Acharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 2001-03-23 18:38:55.0
> To: JRun-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Scrambling Code
>
> yup!! thats right...put all ur sensitive code in beans and u can
> scramble
> the bean class byte codes.....there are tools available to do that....
>
> check this site out
> http://www.condensity.com/
>
> Sanjay Acharya
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew L. Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:19 PM
> To: JRun-Talk
> Subject: Re: Scrambling Code
>
>
>
> What code are you trying to scramble?  Code within the JSP or code
> within a
> class?  Why not put all sensitive code within a class and at that point
> all
> is well.
>
> Matt
>
> Matthew L. Wright
> Java Internet Programmer
> Jupiter One
> Web World Studios West Coast
> www.jupiterone.com
> (818) 763-2927
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JRun-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:01 PM
> Subject: Scrambling Code
>
>
>
> > Serious question here:
> >
> > I know this was brought up recently, but I don't think there were any
> good
> answers and now we are facing the same problem.  A customer wants to buy
> our
> product and host it in house, but we don't really want to give away our
> code.  So how can you scramble, but still access it using jsp?
> >
> > Travis Reeder
> > Chief Software Architect
> > ThinkVirtual
>
>
>
>
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