Some more information, for those interested.

If you use JRun in application mode, you can directly access the JRun provided JDBC 
drivers, as long as your servlets and JSP's are accessed through JRun's engine.

However, if you use JRun in service mode, any attempt to directly register and use 
those provided JDBC drivers in your servlets or JSP's will invoke a "driver locked for 
use with embedded applications" error.

Error makes sense now.  But why do I have to use JRun only in application mode to use 
your drivers (other than through datasource name in JDBC settings)?  My servlets/JSP's 
are being run through the JRun engine, so I'm not using them elsewhere.

If anyone at Allaire is listening, I'm hoping this is a bug and not an accidental 
feature.

Toby

>-----Original Message-----
>From: tdavis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 1:17 PM
>To: JRun-Talk
>Subject: JRun's included JDBC drivers
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>Can you use JRun 3.1's included JDBC drivers directly in servlets/JSP's,
>without registering through the JDBC Settings?
>
>I have servlets (and my own connection pooling) that I am going to run
>through JRun that register the drivers themselves.  I get inconsistent
>results, where sometimes they work, sometimes they don't (with "cannot use
>with embedded applications" errors)... without even changing my code.
>
>Even the most simple ones...
>Class.forName("allaire.jrun.jdbc.JRunDriver");
>etc
>etc
>
>I guess I'm very unclear what the SPECIFIC limitations are with the provided
>drivers.  My understanding was that I could use the JDBC drivers as long as
>I ran my servlets/JSP's through JRun. I have no need right now to use JDBC
>Settings' pooling and what not.
>
>Can I treat the included drivers much like separate drivers, as long as
>they're registered in servlets/JSP's running through JRun?
>
>(Purchasing a separate JDBC driver is not an option right now)
>
>Toby
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>Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 15:59:57 -0400
>From: "Richard H. White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Session's getting "mangled" in 2.3.3 or other versions? Your experiences?
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Hello Lynn,
>
>We are currently experiencing the same problem with Jrun 3.0 in the Windows
>NT environment. We ran OK for a long time with version 2.2 and are switching
>back to that version this weekend. We are currently communicating with
>Allaire Tech Support concerning this problem. We will inform you of the
>outcome and would appreciate it if you would fill us in if you find out
>anything that would shed some light on this issue.
>
>Thanks
>
>Lynn Walton wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm still on 2.3.3 build 157 (for Solaris-Sparc). Recently I've been
>> getting a few reports of a user getting another user's session data.
>> It's been rare,
>> but is still quite serious for us. Wondered if anyone else has
>> experienced this with any version of Jrun 2.3.3 157 or higher or Jrun 3
>> or 3.1?   Or even
>> any other servlet engine?
>>
>> I read this past week either on this list or in the forums where someone
>> reported wtih 3.0 sp2a having a problem with 2 users from two different
>> IP's
>> getting the same session id assigned.  I'm trying to get an idea of how
>> common this is?   Or if anyone has any experiences that helped them log
>> or
>> understand this better.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lynn
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>Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 19:01:15 -0700
>From: "Clarence Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Sent text messages to a cell phone
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>I need to send text messages via a web page to cell phones, what is the best 
>way to do this?  And, will it work for all phones??
>
>CM
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>Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 21:03:32 -0700
>From: "Matthew L. Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Sent text messages to a cell phone
>Message-ID: <000d01c0f162$62f8dea0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Wow,
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>Do you want a third party application or to develop it from scratch?  What
>sort of provider do you have to interface with the cell phones on what
>network?  Detail details please.
>Matthew L. Wright
>Java Internet Programmer
>Jupiter One
>Web World Studios West Coast
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>(818) 763-2927
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Clarence Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "JRun-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 7:01 PM
>Subject: Sent text messages to a cell phone
>
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>> I need to send text messages via a web page to cell phones, what is the
>best
>> way to do this?  And, will it work for all phones??
>>
>> CM
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