Thanks for that, Scott. While it may not reflect the "best" it may well
reflect a "typical" one. :-) Nothing wrong with that, at least from the
standpoint of us learning from whatever's going on if it's something that
might happen anywhere.

BTW, I really didn't raise it to complain about livedocs not being
up--that's only a secondary concern. Hey, I think it's great the site exists
at all, and I hope more people will use it and the cool feature to be able
to add comments to any page in any book (on JRun, CF, Spectra, and more).

Indeed, if anything I hope that by pointing out this issue (until it's
fixed, at least), this may motivate some folks to try refreshing the page
after a few moments when they try to visit it and it fails. I know I "walked
away" a few times till I thought to "try again" after a pause.

/charlie

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Stirling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:38 PM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: livedocs, and wondering about all JRun apps


Let me just say that Livedocs doesn't represent anything close to the best
possible app server deployment environment.  I'll forward your note
internally to the Livedocs owners.

Scott Stirling
Macromedia


> -----Original Message-----
> From: charlie arehart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:07 PM
> To: JRun-Talk
> Subject: livedocs, and wondering about all JRun apps
>
> Folks, this is a question that may pertain to all JRun users,
> not just those who use the "livedocs" site.
>
> I find that often when I connect to livedocs.macromedia.com
> (moved from livedocs.allaire.com) the first time in the day
> (or for a while), I get a "could not connect" error from the
> Jrun server on that site. I forget the specific message but
> many have probably seen it before on their own servers for
> one reason or another.
>
> Even with a couple refreshes, I still fails, but if I wait a
> few moments and try again, the site comes up. I'm assuming that
> this means there's some sort of startup process going on, but
> I don't ever experience that when running pages on my own server.
>
> Is this a characteristic that hampers any other JRun users on
> their own sites (or any others who try to visit the livedocs
> site)?  Would it be helped by setting that app to autostart?
> If that's the solution, it seems ugly that failing to do that
> results in the site showing an error to the first visitor. I
> thought it was just to avoid a "lag" at the first invocation.
>

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