Hi thanks Pete and Charles

I hope Neo will be the bridge for combining best of both world
Pardon my previous email that has alot of misunderstanding statement

Cheers

----- Original Message -----
From: "charles arehart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JRun-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 4:15 PM
Subject: RE: CF2J2EE


> I assume you meant "takes 3 times longer to develop the same thing in
J2EE",
> not CF, based on your previous statement. And I'd agree. As for the move
of
> CF to a J2EE platform for Neo, now called CFMX, it will not change current
> CF development at all. The same code will run from CF5 to CFMX (except for
> the sort of typical compatibility challenges, deprecations, and planned
> obsolescence that come in most product upgrades). The fact that CFMX runs
on
> J2EE is as important to developers as the fact that it ran on a C++
platform
> before--it was transparent.
>
> Now, that's not to say that there won't be increased benefits from the
> underlying J2EE platform and integration points. I think that was the crux
> of Drew's question, but it's also why I asked for his clarification. It's
> one thing for CFMXers to benefit from the new platform (as all will) and
> consider some integration possibilities (as some will). It's quite another
> to  expect them to leap from CF to pure J2EE. Some may be forced to by
> company politics, but they'll likely be disappointed by that very loss of
> productivity you mention.
>
> Then again, I'll be the first to argue that there are many design and
> development techniques and approaches inherent in the J2EE platform that
the
> CF community would be wise to adopt, and I'm in fact working on that very
> issue. Drew and I have discussed some possibilities of working together in
> that regard. But there's a place for the two different platforms. I'm
> looking forward to each benefiting from the best of the other, as the two
> communities become more aware of each other.
>
> /charlie
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mashuri Lambana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:10 AM
> > To: JRun-Talk
> > Subject: Re: CF2J2EE
> >
> >
> > We normally use coldfusion during prototyping stage because it is a lot
> > faster to develop and to deploy (make customer try and make any revision
> > necessary) because it roughly takes 3 times longer to develop the
> > same thing
> > in coldfusion.
> >
> > If Neo jump to J2EE i hope it maintains the simplicity of coldfusion or
at
> > least as simple as jrun without sacrificing the development time.  If it
> > becomes as complex as J2EE looks like asp.net is a better alternative
for
> > RAD
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "charles arehart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "JRun-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:15 AM
> > Subject: RE: CF2J2EE
> >
> >
> > > Do you mean moving entirely from CF to J2EE? Or keeping some CF and
> > > integrating with J2EE apps and services? And do you mean moving entire
> > > applications or leaving existing ones and only building new ones?
> > >
> > > I'd think each of those pose different possibilities. (Of course, some
> > > aspects would be the same for all, but each poses its own set
> > of pros and
> > > cons, I'd think.)
> > >
> > > /charlie
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Drew Falkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:33 PM
> > > > To: JRun-Talk
> > > > Subject: CF2J2EE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey all-
> > > >
> > > > I have a question to pose to you anyone who is interested in
> > responding:
> > > >
> > > > What would you tell a ColdFusion user if s/he were to ask what
> > advantages
> > > > they could utilize by moving to a J2EE environment?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks...
> > > >
> > > > Drew Falkman
> > > > Author, JRun Web Application Construction Kit
> > > > http://www.drewfalkman.com/books/0789726009/
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
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