The alternative is that the user has to continually load 50k pages full of categorical information again and again. Additionally, think of the performance savings if everyone has a "thick" client and the only information being sent to and from the server is the actual information needed. So maybe there is a larger load on the front end, but the savings is dramatic once its loaded. (I don't think Macromedia threw much server at the pet market demo - it ran a lot faster when I deployed it on my machine) The socket between Flash and the server is native, which means very little information is being passed between the two.
That said, you're right, it's probably not for every site. And some users may need to download Flash Player v.6 the first time - which has been downloaded more than any other version - 200 million times. But I respect your opinion. I, personally think that this by far the best solution for running more dynamic applications over the Web yet. DHTML had too many browser incompatibilities to every be worth using extensively - plus it took forever to develop. Applets are too confining and buggy on the client, plus Windows probably won't have a JVM anymore - which is a huge download. The new flash allows for component development, which means that UI components can be plugged in, etc. so development will be ever quicker. The old HTML way, when it comes to developing enterprise applications, is just too cumbersome. I don't know if this is it, but it is closer than anything else... Also... Allaire...? -Drew -----Original Message----- From: Haseltine, Celeste [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 7:55 AM To: JRun-Talk Subject: RE: Pet Store on JRun I think I remember reading on Allaire's web site that the Flash version would work on any J2EE compliant server as long as you had the Flash MX deploy kit(?) installed. I can't remember if they called it a deploy kit, or something else, but it basically checks to see if the user's machine has flash installed, and if not, will prompt them to download it before they can view the site. One thing I did note when I played with the Flash version on Allaire's web site (note I did NOT download it, I decided to run it on Allaire's web site, as a user would if he/she were visiting my web site). I decided to connect to the internet via our T1 at our server farm, which was under heavy load at the time. It took me fully 3 minutes and 22 seconds for the flash intro to download onto my local machine. During my navigation through the web site, it took me between 1 minute to 1 minute 46 seconds for my "click" actions on the different pets to "change" the screen to display the pet list. Although I really do like Flash, using this type of approach on a public web site is just not a wise decision in my opinion, particularly keeping in mind that fully 60% of the user population still uses dial up modems (NOT cable modems or T1 connections). Flash is still too slow to build a complete web site around, particularly for those users who are still using a dial up connection to surf/purchase stuff on the internet. Again, just my opinion. Celeste Haseltine, PE MTL, Inc Dallas, TX -----Original Message----- From: Niteesh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 12:52 AM To: JRun-Talk Subject: Re: Pet Store on JRun Dear Matthew, The flash based petstore is very good. A query was that would the Flash MX- Java petstore also function on any other J2ee compliant server? or just Jrun. Regards, Niteesh Elias. *================================================================* Sr Design Technologist Puretech Internet Pvt. Ltd. http://www.puretech.co.in 77 Atlanta. Nariman Point. tel. +91 22 2833158 Mumbai 400 021. India fax. +91 22 2854713 *=================================================================* ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Horn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "JRun-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 11:02 PM Subject: Pet Store on JRun > There is a new page that contains links to running examples of the Pet Store and the Pet Market (Pet Store with a Flash front-end): > http://blueprints.macromedia.com > > Also, Macromedia rolled out a Blueprint Application des/dev center with tons of great content at: > http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/blueprint/ > > It includes a link to JRun instructions, but is primarily focused on Flash/rich-media applications running on Macromedia server products (includeing CF and JRun). > > -------- > > Matthew J. Horn > Sr. Technical Writer > < m a c r o m e d i a > > ______________________________________________________________________ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
