Let's keep in mind what we are building. This is not something to help my dad's office assistant make a web site to post pictures of his kids. It's a security framework. People arrive at this this task with girded loins. The
LAST thing you want is automagical things going on behind the scenes,
especially when it comes to security.

This is where I believe you're mistaken.  I know our current end-user
community better than anyone on this list.  There has been an
overwhelming feedback from users - many of whom are brand new to Java,
let alone web applications, that rave about the simplicity of our
framework and how easy it is to set up.  The big mantra of this
project is "we make life easy for you whenever possible, but make it
flexible when you need it".  This is NOT a low-level framework for
those well-versed in Java.  It is a framework for pretty much any
skill level.


Ok, now we're getting somewhere.  This is compelling to me.

Why not have

jsecurity-core - SLF4J API
jsecurity - jsecurity-core plus SLF4J implementation that implements your algorithm

Everyone gets what they want. Core developers code against a known, robust, logging API. Novice users get their dependency free and simple jar.


Regards,
Alan

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