I'll let you continue the implementation discussion on the other thread, but will add my two cents from a user's perspective:

I'd like to see a method on the Subject that can logout the subject out but preserves "remember me". This could be accomplished with either a new method or a new parameter to logout(). Subject just seems like the right place to put this functionality (although I don't understand the implementation issues).

Les Hazlewood wrote:
I think it might be more 'correct' to do this in JSecurity via
subject.getSession().stop() method instead.  If in an HTTP environment,
HttpSession.invalidate() will be called on your behalf.  If not using HTTP
container sessions (for whatever reason), it also does the appropriate
invalidation on the underlying implementation.

But this surfaces an interesting question for the development team:

If someone calls subject.getSession().stop(), should they be able to then
immediately call subject.getSession() and have it return a brand new
session?

Currently that doesn't happen.  Any calls on that returned session would
throw an InvalidSessionException.  Going back to the desire to prevent these
exceptions from occurring when possible, isn't it a good idea to create a
new one?

I can't think of any reasons at the moment to not allow a new session to be
created as described.  I like the idea of making this possible.  What do you
guys think?


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Jeremy Haile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well, the way JSecurity works an explicit logout removes the "remember me"
cookie.  A session timeout will of course not remove the remember me cookie.
 So if the user doesn't log out and their session times out then when they
go back to the site they are remembered.  However, if the explicitly log out
and return to the site, they will have to re-authenticate.

If you want to simply un-authenticate them, but not remove the remember me,
you could just invalidate their current HTTP session by calling
HttpSession.invalidate(), but don't call Subject.logout().  Their next
request would start a new session which would be remembered, but not
authenticated.

Hope this helps!

Jeremy


On Jul 31, 2008, at 1:21 PM, Brad Whitaker wrote:

 Thanks for the response -- I didn't realize that Subject.logout() would
remove the remember me cookies.

This behavior surprises me a little bit and leads to a different question:
is there a way to "un-authenticate" a user? It seems it would valuable to be
able to log a user out but still remember them. Am I missing this in the API
or does this capability not currently exist?

Brad


Jeremy Haile wrote:

Hey Brad,

The usual way of forcing JSecurity to "forget" a subject is to call
Subject.logout() - this should remove any remember me cookies as well.
 Perhaps you could auto-logout subjects in your development environment upon
first access?  You could also just bookmark the /logout URL and click the
bookmark when you start a new development session.

This would be difficult to do on the server side (i.e. without a web
request from a browser), since it involves actually clearing the cookie from
a user's machine.

Please let me know if you have any ideas about how JSecurity could make
this process easier.

Jeremy


On Jul 31, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Brad Whitaker wrote:

 Is it possible to force JSecurity to "forget" a subject that has
previously been remembered?

This is an issue for me only in "development" mode and shouldn't occur
in a production environment. The problem is that I often start a development
session with an empty user database but the browser comes to the site with a
cookie. I end up getting a Principal that I don't know. I would like to
discard the cookie at this point. Is this possible? Or is there a better way
to deal with this issue (other than clearing the cache on the browser)?

Thanks,

Brad





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