On Nov 3, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
Jeremy Haile wrote:
As far as I can tell, none of those are *products*, so they fail the
"similar" *product* test.
It does not have to be a product to be protected, it's about
trademark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark), and as stated by
the Apache page I pointed to :
"Trademarks exist by virtue of use, not just registration"
Now, looking a bit forward on google, here are some other references
to JSecurity :
http://jwicglobal.com/Knowledge.htm
"WIC GLOBAL has developed a comprehensive Information Security
Assessment service called JSecurity. Our JSecurity experts will
conduct a full information security risk assessment focusing on:"
http://www.juniper.net/security/
Seems like they have a service called J-Security. Be sure that
Juniper has a legal service who might perfectly well send some
nicely written "cease and desist" letter to the ASF about this name.
Not sure that our legals want to deal with that ...
http://www.jegers.com/dnn/Products/JPortfolio/tabid/83/Default.aspx
Another JSecurity... Seems to be around since 2/11/2005 (at least)
http://www.powerlogic.com.br/powerportal/ecp/files.do?evento=download&urlArqPlc=fld_jc_produc_ing_web2.pdf
This company has a product named JSecurity. Since when ?
As much as I like the JSecurity name, I also think that we are un
potential jeopardy if we don't change its name. That's the main
issue we have : we can't afford any kind of legal action when we
already know that there are company out there which already use this
name.
Anyway, I can be wrong, I'm just trying to gather as much
information as possible. When you guys think you have set your mind
about this name, you will have to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the
selected name (be it JSecurity or any other) to double check that
it's ok or not (IFAIK). That is one of the condition to exit from
the incubator :
"Check of project name for trademark issues " (http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Minimum+Graduation+Requirements
).
Thanks for digging into this deeper Emmanuel. If all of the above
were in the realm of basket weaving or making jam preserves we would
be ok.
Maybe we could "fight" them all to claim we were the "first" but why?
I would rather be coding than wasting my time with this. I don't
think it's worth the risk. IMO, I think we can come up with something
a little more original than jSecurity.
Regards,
Alan
