On Dec 31, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Jeremy Haile wrote:

On Dec 30, 2008, at 8:50 PM, David Jencks wrote:

I will go farther and say that my observation of projects here at apache is that the ones using maven generally are a __LOT__ more open to comments, contributions, integration proposals, and outside interest than the ones using ant. My experience with the ones using ant is generally that they tend to have an attitude that they know better than anyone else how their project might be used or might fit into other contexts.

OK - I can sort of see your point, despite it being a *gross* over- generalization.

David is relating his personal experiences and observations. I don't see where he takes those and makes a generalization across the board.

Partly as a result of these experiences and partly due to the typically incomprehensible project organization of ant built projects I have to be MUCH more interested in the subject area of an ant built project before I will investigate it. For me JSecurity is just barely edging over into "worth investigating despite the project organization and build system".

I'm glad that you are interested in investigating JSecurity, even if it's just edging over the line =)

Don't expect people to want to climb on board the project with these kinds of responses....


Regards,
Alan

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