On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Les Hazlewood <[email protected]>wrote:

> Basically I'm polling your interest of accommodating internal change
>> requests. If you are already gearing up towards stable 1.0 release you might
>> not be interested or not have time for it, but if you welcome improvement
>> suggestions on internals of the framework, I'd be happy to work with you.
>
>
> We would absolutely appreciate your feedback and contributions - I think
> we're very much open to suggestions prior to 1.0, since it makes sense (at
> least to me) to get these kinds of additions in place before a 1.0 stable
> release.
>

Excellent, it sounds like I'm stepping in at the right time.


> The best way is to discuss your ideas and approaches on the dev list which
> will then probably lead to Jira issues and patches.  With enough due
> diligence and open discussion, there is a very good possibility to become a
> committer - we're definitely open to others joining the project as
> committers assuming said due diligence.  Just be aware that the ASF requires
> signing contributor agreements before that can happen (
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas).
> So, we definitely look forward to discussion and your ideas.  Let loose :)
>

Thanks for the encouraging reply Les. Yes, I'm subscribed to the dev list,
but I didn't want to post there out of the blue all-knowingly, proposing
changes to code that for the intended purpose does work. It's just that
framework programming *is* difficult because it's impossible to know all the
use cases before people take your code and start using it in a way you never
even thought of... we've all been there - on both sides of the fence I'm
sure. I don't have a problem being a user for the time being - there's the
burden of a committer, suddenly you are actually responsible for maintaining
the code and there's only a limited amount of time everybody has. However,
becoming a committer in this case would open up interesting possibilities
for me and the good thing is that I'm in a position where I'm allowed to
allocate some of my time for security related issues. I'm very much aware of
the apache committer process and meritocracy (which makes an interesting
comparison to Codehaus' dictatorship approach), but never been an Apache
committer. Anyway, we don't have to worry about it for now, let me just
annoy you with a flurry of emails to the dev list first ;)

Kalle

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