Smith, Thanks

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Garrett Smith <[email protected]>wrote:

> On 12/15/10, Emeka <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Garret,
> >
>
> This is a one-to-many communications medium. A reply to the group is a
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>
> See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
>
> > I have already done  programming in other languages.... Clojure and other
> > scripting languages(extensively). However, I have not been able to
> achieve
> > same success with Javascript.
> > I intend to carry out some webapps programming and I think I need to pick
> up
> > enough Javascript skill in order to achieve something reasonable.
> >
> I do not know what you mean by "reasonable" here.
>
> Most code on the web is total crap. Ironically, this stuff is not that
> hard. The success limiting factors (the failed parts), in order, are
> HTML, CSS, and the W3C DOM, followed by bad usability/accessibility,
> misunderstanding about developing for dynamic environment (various
> browsers), followed by (ironically) the language itself (ECMAScript).
>
> A misunderstanding that has become more prevalent is the inability to
> distinguish native ES methods and objects from host objects from user
> defined methods from libraries (e.g. the belief that `$` is something
> that is provided by the environment or that jQuery is javascript (see
> stackoverflow for details)).
>
> The browsers today are remarkably consistent with each other and so
> knowing about broswer anomalies is really not as important these days
> (despite library blog FUD). Rewind 10 years, where a cross browser
> image swap required recursive DFS "layer crawler", to get reliable
> results in NS4. Nowadays, people balk at `getElementById` and want to
> use a "$".
>
> I have no idea what your success limiting factor is because you've
> asked such an open ended question.
>
> You can learn js by writing js, RTFM (all those w3c specs I mentioned
> plus MSDN), testing, and getting code reviews. Post a real example of
> something that you wanted feedback on, cleaned up and validated and
> you may get some (hopefully good) feedback.
>
> [snip others]
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