Mads: Thanks for bringing this up! Always beer at our meetups,
sometimes for free ;)

Steve Souders just released ControlJS a few hours ago:
http://stevesouders.com/controljs/

Haven't had time to check it out yet, but looks promising!

Gregers

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Anton Yacenko <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry, but code gone with my leave from eBay :)
> I thought it's in production, but marktplaats.nl there is another solution
> that was pointed in this thread: load banners in the bottom and move nodes
> to the placeholders.
> Anton.
> On Dec 16, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Mads Erik Forberg wrote:
>
> Sounds good, can you provide a code example for this? :-)
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Mads
>
>
> Den 16.12.2010 10:37, skrev Anton Yacenko:
>
> I've solve this problem with document.write redefine, it's not simple
> solution, coz you need to control script loading, but in common was like
> this:
> redefine document.write,
> parse content for each dw call, find content and scripts inside
> put content to placeholder, async. load scripts that was found (that scripts
> could use dw too, so you need to redefine dw again; i've worked with
> doubleclick banners and sometime there was 3 scripts inside each other who
> called dw);
> this solution easy when you have 1 banner, when you have 2 and more you
> basically need to load all scripts by yourself and execute in needed
> document.write context for exactly banner placeholder, this means global
> redefined document.write became a proxy for all scripts and placeholders,
> this require more complicated "architecture" implementation. I've solve
> multiple banners loading with simple "text" events (basically simple
> observer).
> Erik, I hope this flow of thoughts could help you somehow :)
> All, interesting to hear if anyone used solution like this
> Regards,
> Anton.
>
> On Dec 15, 2010, at 11:31 PM, Ben Alman wrote:
>
> I wrote a small jQuery plugin to do this, but I didn't get to spend enough
> time on it to know if and when it will fail. It doesn't use Iframes, but
> does override document.write and document.writeln, and in my testing, worked
> with nested scripts. It's obviously not the most robust solution out there,
> since it doesn't use Iframes to sandbox.
> http://benalman.com/projects/jquery-misc-plugins/#loadadscript
>
> - Ben
>
> "Cowboy" Ben Alman
> http://benalman.com/
> RJ3 Productions
> Broken Buddha Records
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Balázs Galambosi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> This is almost exactly the same as placing the code to the bottom of
>> the page (without iframes) and replacing the placeholders with the
>> real content after dom:load.
>>
>> The difference is that e.g. Adsense doesn't like "fake" iframes
>> (because it's generating ads depending on the page's content).
>>
>> Synchronous I/O at the bottom of the page is an acceptable  trade-off
>> in my opinion. The only downside is that you need to have a good
>> management of such scripts because you have to place the placeholder
>> and the real ad separately depending on the current page.
>>
>> 2010/12/15 Nicola Rizzo <[email protected]>:
>> > I solved this problem using iframes: after the page load my script
>> > creates an iframe for every banner, so the load time is not affected
>> > by the external scripts.
>> > The iframe's src points to a page containing the original synchronous
>> > script, wrapped in a div, ie:
>> > <div id='wrapper'>
>> >    <script type='text/javascript'
>> > src='http://external/sync/script.js'></script>
>> > </div>
>> > When the iframe's onload is fired, my handler copies the
>> > document.getElementById('wrapper').innerHTML to the main document (in
>> > a parent.document.getElementById(íframecontainer') or something like
>> > that).
>> > Hope this helps,
>> >    Nicola
>> >
>> > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Mads Erik Forberg <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >> have any of you worked out a async document.write that works with
>> >> ad-hosting-services?
>> >> My employer uses AdTech, and some times they load ads from yet another
>> >> ad-hosting-service, so we get many layers of document.write
>> >>
>> >> It works fine for the first ad-service to do this stuff:
>> >> [code]
>> >> var oldWrite = document.write,
>> >>       content = '';
>> >> document.write = function(d) {
>> >>        content += d;
>> >> }
>> >> [/code]
>> >>
>> >> But when the script from the AdTech loads, it loads yet another script
>> >> that
>> >> uses document.write from another service. And that document.write goes
>> >> back
>> >> to its old self.
>> >> Like this:
>> >> Initial call:
>> >> <script src="path-to-adtech.js"></script>
>> >> In that script its:
>> >> document.write("<script src=\"another-provider.js\"><\/script>");
>> >> And in that script:
>> >> document.write("Print out fancy ad");
>> >>
>> >> So what I want is a document.write that stays persistant over all the
>> >> layers.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Anyone encountered this? Solutions? Hacks?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Mads Erik Forberg
>> >>
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