On Dec 24, 5:46 pm, fernando trasvina <[email protected]> wrote:

> What crockford is trying to point is that you should not think as the new 
> operator as the classical use of new
> you should think of it as the prototype pattern, and this is not in conflict 
> in any way with the Object.create method

I don't see where he points that out.

> Object.create is good for creating inheritance hierarchies
> new is good for creating instances that need an initializer function in this 
> case known as constructor function.
>

I don't see how Object.create wins you much in this regard alone over
a constructor. it breaks the instanceof relationship, which means you
have to check for the existence of a members manually, or by using the
isPrototypeOf method which could be shadowed.


> with the case of super you don't need it because you cannot (even when there 
> are implementations that provide a way to do it) mutate the proto attribute 
> of an object, so you always know what object you come from. so

What does a super call have to do with proto? Calling a method of a
parent and augmenting it for the more specific instance isn't
something never needed.

> you should follow the language idioms and not invent new ones because you 
> don't understand something or because you don't like it,

Since when was there an idiom? Inheritance isn't even consistent in
the language.

> neither because you are trying to port the idioms from other languages.
> well that is my point of view.

At no point in this discussion have I advocated porting some other
language's inheritance model.

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