Hey Pete,
Thanks for these instructions -- very helpful!
On a slightly tangential note... Do you happen to know why inputs 1 and 2 (the 
combo inputs on the front panel) produce a mono signal for me, i.e. when I plug 
in a stereo cable and in the "0-latency" mode? Should I be panning them left 
and right from inside the Control Panel?

Thanks,
Vic

On Apr 24, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Peter Torpey wrote:

> Thanks Vic for pointing me in the right direction.
> 
> Since others also had some questions about this, I cut and paste the
> relevant section from the Pro 40 manual here.  Note, the line levels for
> monitoring the DAW specified here are probably different from those for the
> Pro 14 and 24, but the section below gives a pretty clear overview of the
> various routing options:
> 
> When in the Saffire Mix program and you hit Alt+Shift+R using Phil and Tim's
> HSC set as Vic describes, you will see the following options:
> From the manual:
> Clear 
> 
> This turns off all output routing. This can be used to re-set the routing
> for when you need to completely restart a configuration, 
> meaning you do not have to manually turn everything off first. 
> 
> DAW Tracking 
> 
> 'DAW Tracking' is used for the initial recording process. It will
> automatically output DAW 1 and 2 to be sent to all Line outputs 
> and hence your main monitors (1+2) and to Headphone outputs 1 and 2. All
> input channels must be monitored from within the 
> DAW application. 
> 
> Zero Latency Tracking 
> 
> Zero Latency Tracking is used for the recording process. It will
> automatically output Mix 1 and 2 to all your Line outputs 
> simultaneously, and hence will route to the main monitors (1+2), and to the
> Headphone outputs 1 and 2. Line inputs and DAW outputs 
> must be set up in Mix 1 so that you are able to monitor these sources with
> zero latency. You must also ensure that you are not 
> monitoring the same signals from within your DAW at the same time, otherwise
> you will be monitoring the same signal twice (once 
> direct from Saffire PRO 40 Control AND a second time (with latency) from
> your DAW.) 
> 
> Mixing 
> 
> 'Mixing' is used for the mixing process. When sending signals out to a mixer
> or to external processing hardware, hardware outputs 
> are typically set exactly as they are set in the DAW software. DAW outputs
> route directly to the line output of the same number. (DAW 
> outputs 1-10 to Monitor Outputs 1-2, Line outputs 3-10.) 
> 
> Loopback 
> 
> Use when recording from one software program to another. For example, to
> record audio from your internet browser into your DAW, 
> or to record from one DAW to another. 
> 
> DAW 1 and 2 are routed back in a loop and are available for recording via
> inputs 19 and 20 in your DAW. 
> 
> To prevent any audio feedback, make sure that the DAW you are recording into
> is not set to monitor its inputs. Alternatively, set the 
> outputs of the DAW into which you are recording to 3 and 4; this allows you
> to monitor the inputs without feeding the signal back into 
> the record stream. 
> 
> I hope this is helpful.
> 
> 
> --Pete
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Victor Tsaran
> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 1:12 AM
> To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] kRE: How to turn off direct monitoring of line inputs
> withSaffire Pro 24
> 
> It's not a toggle, it's a menu. I believe you access it by pressing
> alt+shift+r.
> 
> On Apr 23, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Peter Torpey wrote:
> 
>> Vic,
>> 
>> Is this control the one in the HSC spot ring for DAW controls which is
>> labeled "DAW PFL"?  I assume from what you're saying I can toggle this
>> control on/off to turn direct monitoring of line inputs on/off?  Just want
>> to make sure I'm looking at the correct control.  Never used this (but
>> sounds useful).
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> --)Pete
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf
>> Of Victor Tsaran
>> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 6:14 PM
>> To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] kRE: How to turn off direct monitoring of line
> inputs
>> withSaffire Pro 24
>> 
>> Pete,
>> You have to turn off the "0-latency monitoring" preset in Saffire control
>> panel and switch to "DAW Tracking".
>> On Apr 23, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Peter Torpey wrote:
>> 
>>> Will do.  I'm betting Phil knows how to do this!  (But he doesn't sit in
>>> front of the computer all day!).   ...And with these time differences
>> around
>>> the world you never know who might be sleeping.
>>> 
>>> --Pete
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf
>>> Of David Reynolds
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 4:36 PM
>>> To: JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [Jsonar] How to turn off direct monitoring of line inputs
>>> withSaffire Pro 24
>>> 
>>> Peter,
>>> 
>>> I'm not a member of the midi mag list, so if you get an answer on this,
>> can 
>>> you post it here too?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> David.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Peter Torpey" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "'JSonar -- JAWS Scripts for Sonar discussion list'" 
>>> <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:31 PM
>>> Subject: [Jsonar] How to turn off direct monitoring of line inputs 
>>> withSaffire Pro 24
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Calvin,
>>>> 
>>>> Glad my suggestions worked.
>>>> 
>>>> I am forwarding your next question (below) about muting the direct
>>>> monitoring of line inputs so that you can just hear the output from
> sonar
>> 
>>>> to
>>>> the Jsonar and MidiMag list.  I don't know of an easy way to do this 
>>>> without
>>>> changing the routing assignments, but it sounds like there should be a
>> way
>>>> of doing this.  Maybe we can all learn something!
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> Bro I got it to work!!  I just created a master bus, and routed it out
>>>> to saffire pro mon 1, like you said, changed the routing preset in the
>>>> saffire mix control to loopback one and vuala!!  Thanks so much!!  I
>>>> also wanted to ask if their was a way to mute the direct monetoring of
>>>> line inputs so that i can only hear the output through sonar?  Thanks
>>>> for the quick assistance!
>>>> 
>>>> On 4/23/11, Calvin Botha <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Wow!  Thanks so much for the reply and for sending me this preset!
>>>>> unfortunately i have the pro 24 so this snapshot will unfortunately
>>>>> not load!!  But thanks again Pete!
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 4/23/11, Peter Torpey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Calvin,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Try using the pre-set attached and loading it to your Saffire through 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> mix control program.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --Pete
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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