Your response could be used to segue into a lively (thread/debate) on
whether it is more (feasible/likely/beneficial) for the computing industry
to evolve in the direction of producing "tools that non-programmers can use"
or towards making "every user a programmer".. but I'm not going to be the
one to start it =8>p)
(In fact, I'm not 100% sure they are actually different objectives.. but
I'll defend that statement iff anyone else wants to explore JSP on such an
abstract level.)
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Anuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, March 14, 1999 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: What is the so great about JSP ?!
>As I see it, most dynamic page options fall into one of these categories:
>
>1. CGI, Servlets, etc. - HTML is put in the code. Problem is that you
can't
>update the html without a programmer. Big problem.
>
>2. ASP, JSP, JHTML, SSJS - Code is put in the HTML. For the most part, as
>long as the html producer doesn't touch anything between <% and %>, they
can
>update the page without a programmer. Some HTML editors such as HomeSite,
>DreamWeaver, and InterDev do an ok job of ignoring these code blocks.
>
>3. Cold Fusion, PHP, XSSI, etc. - Code is completely seperate from HTML
with
>high level tags that are used for inserting database rows, calling special
>libraries, etc. without using any programming or scripting. A competent
>html producer should be able to design these pages and use the special tags
>to add logic to the page without help from a programmer.
>
>The holy grail of people designing template systems seems to be #3, but #2
>lets you get 90% of what you need to get done and is fairly manageable
>especially if the code on the page is kept light, since you can always call
>code outside the page whether its in another class, bean, or whatever to do
>more complicated stuff. The debate on this list is where the JSP 1.0 spec
>needs to be between #2 and #3.
>
>Ed
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Keith Kwiatek
>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 1999 1:24 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: What is the so great about JSP ?!
>>
>>
>> I have been reading some of the emails about JSP....I don't see what is
so
>> great about it... What is the big advantage of putting the code in the
>> template vs. the servlet class directory? If I want to seperate
>> my html from
>> my application, it seems there are more efficient ways than using JSP....
>> ---------------------------
>> Keith
>>
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