Hi,

JWS users probably shouldn't worry. Last time I checked Netscape servlet
support was abismal, so they'll simply add the JWS servlet configuration
GUI, servlet support, and JSP support to Netscape. Same GUI, same
configuration, same support. It will be slightly better integrated than the
third party servlet engines are and that's it.

Easier said than done, but that's my guess,

Now what about NetDynamics vs Kiva/NAS? All customers will be encouraged to
move to EJBs, but many will be left out in the cold. NetD 4.x sucks, so if
they drop NAS I hope NetD 5.x is better. Does anyone know if JSP is on tap
for NetD or NAS?

just guessing.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Cromwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 11:20 PM
> Subject: Re: JWS Demise...
>
>
> Oh dear.
>
> In my long history of Web consulting, I have found the Netscape web server
> inferior to both
> Apache and JWS.  It has a nice web administration interface, and
> integration
> with LDAP
> was nice, but Netscape *never* supported it and it had a horrible VM.
>
> For instance, for an entire *year* I tried to get Netscape to add a simple
> fix to increase
>  the heap size for the VM from 16mb to a configuration variable. I was
> running
> Netscape on a machine with 512mb of ram, but it was only able to use 16mb.
> The
> solution was to use RMI to host the servlet functions external to the
> Netscape VM,
> but even RMI suffered from too much GC on a small heap. I
> couldn't even get
> them
> to add a simple configuration parameter, after paying big bucks for gold
> support
> (entitling me to direct phone calls with the engineers)
>
> Kiva might be great, but NES isn't and I doubt it is as scalable as JWS or
> Apache.
>
> I hate to jump on the open-source bandwagon, because I don't think it's a
> panacea, but if Sun
> is going to abandon JWS, perhaps we should press them to release
> the source?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Zukowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 8:52 PM
> Subject: JWS Demise...
>
>
> > For those interested... Sorry should have included in first message
> >
> > http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,37053,00.html
> >
> > The Sun-Netscape Alliance will kill off Sun's two Web servers
> in favor of
> > Netscape's technology as part of an effort to pare down duplicate
> software.
> >
> >
> > John Zukowski    Focus on Java Guide / http://java.miningco.com
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> > Author Java AWT Reference / Borland's JBuilder No Experience Required
> >     MageLang Institute          / Mastering Java 1.2
> >     http://www.magelang.com  Have fun, you'll learn as you go.
> >
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