Connie,

I'm hoping that you can forward this email to the appropriate people.  If
you are on this mailing list, I'm sure you have a pretty good idea where the
install instructions have gone wrong and where things can be improved.

This really is in Sun's best interest to improve the JSP site, as I'm sure
that you would love to see JSP dwarf ASP (and hence sell more servers).  But
to do this, you need developer's to learn it and endorse it.  For each x
amount of developer's that download the JSP implementation, a certain % of
those won't get it working because the install instructions aren't complete
and will give up.  Others will find that there really aren't any great
tutorials and books on the subject....What a wasted opportunity...It's less
likely that those developer's will come back.  My point is not to try to
criticize but to encourage....Think of things from a marketing point of
view.  (The ASP tutorial is very straight forward and any Joe Blow can get
it running quickly....With JSP, you better come to the interest list or
you're SOL...)

Also,  this mailing list is transforming into a forum of "how do I get
started."  Awhile back, Lastname Firstname (just joshin')  suggested two
distribution lists, one for more advanced discussions.  Maybe you want to
consider this as more users begin to hear about the 1.0 release and flood
the mailing list.  I've noticed the more advanced users on this list have
been silent as "newby" mail has been overwhelming.  Since I am in the
"newby" stage as well, I don't mind the email, but the more technical
discussions seem to be absent.

Thanks for your time,
Rick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Connie Weiss [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 9:06 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      JavaServer Pages 1.0 Public Release
>
> We are more than pleased to let you know that JavaServer Pages 1.0 is
> now in public release and is officially launched!
>
> Yeah!!!!
>
> Below is the press release for your reading pleasure. Also, please
> stop by java.sun.com to check our our front page blurb, and be sure to
> visit
> the full, new website at java.sun.com/products/jsp.
>
> We are delighted and proud of the huge support we have for this
> technology,
> from dedicated developers like yourselves to the wide-range of industry
> players.
>
> We think there's something for everyone in this new website. We'll be
> keeping
> it up-to-date with new information and will post to the list when
> something
> we think will be of interest to you gets posted. Also, let us know your
> ideas
> for content you'd like to see covered that may not yet be there.
>
> *Thank you* for your insight and support! We couldn't have done it without
> you!
>
> The JavaServer Pages Team
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
>
> SUN UNVEILS JAVASERVER PAGES (TM) TECHNOLOGY
>
> Sun announces the immediate availability of JavaServer Pages (TM)
> technology, which for the first time allows Web page developers to
> easily build cross-platform, truly interactive Web sites.
>
> Harnessing the full power of the Java(TM) platform, JavaServer Pages
> technology  separates the functions of content generation and page
> layout, providing  developers with a simplified and more efficient way
> to create server-generated Web pages that combine content from a wide
> variety of enterprise data sources. Because JavaServer Pages technology
> encapsulates much of the functionality required to generate "dynamic,"
> or constantly changing, content, Web page developers can concentrate on
> the "look" and display of the site without the need for application
> development expertise.
>
> Developed in collaboration with industry leaders in the enterprise
> software and tools markets (see quote addendum for industry support),
> the JavaServer Pages technology is available for free download beginning
> today.  An early access reference implementation is available via the
> Java Developer Connection(SM) program, or, for more information, users
> can access http://java.sun.com/products/jsp.
>
> For more information please contact Matthew Hutchison at 408-517-7049 or
> at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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