Oh no, not another "save the programmer from himself" option! We might as
well all become VB programmers then. Please do not provide ISPs with ways
to cripple what one can do with JSPs. That defeats the point of the
feature. Especially scriptlets.
Dan
> ----------
> From: Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: Eduardo Pelegri-Llopart
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:42 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: separation of logic from view
>
> Hi Justin,
>
> I am not sure I understand your point. Is the objection that in JSP
> you have both scripting elements as well as custom tags? You could
> say: "don't do that". Most development groups and/or individuals have
> style guidelines that they enforce one way or another. For example
> you can even use putback scripts that check your files don't have
> scripting elements.
>
> There is a different tackle on this: we can define a directive of a
> JSP that means: "does not use scripting elements". Although you could
> use this (specially with a project default value) as a stylistic tool,
> I think the most useful function might be in assuring your ISP
> provider that your JSP page will behave well. The ISP provider can
> give you a list of JSP tag libraries you can use "safely", and then it
> make some assumptions about your JSP page behavior.
>
> ----
>
> I just went looking at webmacro.org and I am now more puzzled since
> webmacro seems to have scripting elements. Justin, can you elaborate
> your point a bit more?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - eduard/o
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:24:06 -0500
> > From: Justin Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Is JSP viable in a production environment
>
> > The big difference is that the separation of logic from view is so
> > critical that you really should have some architectural support for
> > it. I don't think JSP provides that--it allows you to separate them,
> > but only in the same way as assembly language programming can be
> > structured--only if you behave.
>
> > Template systems such as WebMacro and FreeMarker actually go a little
> > further and enforce the separation architecturally. That makes it harder
> > for you to get lazy and stick something where it doesn't belong.
>
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