Nikolaos,

my guess is that you'll need to do something non-HTML, for example if I was
doing this for IE only I'd think about using an ActiveX control that
retrieved the machine/username and some JScript to pass that back to the
server, Netscape has plug-ins but I don't know if they have the same
'flexibility' as controls (I've written controls but not plug-ins) - if they
did you could do the same thing there, if the info passed back was the same
you could use the same session info for both.

However, on other (non-Win32 platforms) and for other browsers you're on
your own.

Another question, what happens if the user moves from machine to machine? or
has different logon credentials, does this matter?

Kevin Jones
DevelopMentor

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Kevin,

Thanks for your constructive input....  Comments below:

On Thursday, January 13, 2000 9:41 AM, Kevin Jones
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Anything is possible - it's just software after all. A better question
would
> be how possible is this to do a) eadily and b)without annoying the user.
>
> Take the browser issue - if you are able to use cookies multiple windows
> from the same browser will be in the same session (the browser will store
> the client side cookie in the same place regardless of the open window),
> different browsers will store the cookies in different places so if a
user
> opens another browser then they will not be part of ANY session, meaning
> they will need to log-on.
>
> If you are not using (or can't use) cookies then even the single browser
> scenario may not work - that then depends on whether the new window was
> spawned from the current one, or created afresh, in the second case you
will
> probably need to get the user to logon.

I believe that using URL re-writing is the way to go to have the single
browser - single session relationship (and moreover doesn't require
cookies) BUT what I want is multiple browser - single session.

If there was only a way to concoct a unique ID for a GIVEN USER (sounds
like I'm asking for the PIII processor ID thingy here but I'm not) then any
attempt to access the web server can respond with a single session.

Any comments....

> As for B this may be easier, you'll just need to track the sessions
yourself
> based on some identifier (such as a user id), store the information in a
> database, then you can do pretty much what you want,

As I mentionned in my P.S. we can't use user names and passwords to
uniquely identify a user.  THis would work but is way to intrusive for our
application (which is going to be open to the public).

--Nikolaos


> Kevin Jones
> DevelopMentor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nikolaos Giannopoulos
> Sent: 13 January 2000 01:33
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Is Global Session Possible?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to do either of the following:
>
>
> (1) Be able to uniquely identify a surfer such that ALL requests (whether
> from current browser, spawned browser(s), or other launched browser(s))
use
> the SAME session.
>
>                                   OR
>
> (2) As soon as a "new session" is created INVALIDATE ALL other sessions
for
> a given surfer for reuests whether the session(s) were created from the
> current browser, spawned browser, or other launched browser(s).
>
>
> We have the need for providing a mechanism such that the last access to A
> page, by the user from any browser or spawned window, is the ONLY VALID
> session.
>
> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CREATIVE IDEAS on solving this....
>
> Any help is appreciated...
>
> --Nikolaos
>
>
> P.S. We can NOT use user names and passwords even if we wanted.
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
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