I must have been under a rock (or otherwise occupied) and missed the
original discussion.  However, after reading Jason's two articles my feeling
is that so much of his argument is based on syntax discussions.  Personally
I think this is a "to each his own" issue.  To a Java developer, learning
the WebMacro or other template solutions isn't necessarily any less obscure
than dealing with <%= %> statements that include what amounts to javascript
like syntax *any* web developer or designer worth their weight should
understand.

Trying to do everything in JSPs is certainly not a good idea, and the "model
2" approach SUN decided to not explicitly describe past the 0.92 spec, is a
much better architecture.  But IMO, whether you use a template language or
Java like syntax for the dynamic aspects of a web page, I don't see much
difference.  So go with what suits you, but don't knock JSPs for such a
reason.

Cheers,

Dan
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Daniel Kirkdorffer
NACN IS: 425-580-6225
Sr. Consultant, Syllogistics LLC
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> ----------
> From:         Jason Hunter[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To:     A mailing list for discussion about Sun Microsystem's Java
> Servlet API Technology.
> Sent:         Thursday, February 10, 2000 4:32 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      New Servlets.com article: Reactions to "The Problems with
> JSP"
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I just posted a new article on Servlets.com titled, "Reactions to The
> Problems with JSP". It's a collection of the most interesting feedback
> received from the article posted two weeks ago, and a look at what I
> believe the article accomplished.
>
> From the first paragraph:
>
>   Reader reaction to the article posted here two weeks ago titled,
>   "The Problems with JSP" has been tremendous, generating around 100
>   messages on the public mailing lists (jsp-interest, servlet-interest,
>   and the official webmacro list) and nearly another 100 more to me
>   individually. This follow-on article showcases some of the most
>   interesting points made during the discussion, for those who didn't
>   get to read all the replies and to make public what people sent to
>   the feedback alias. The results were a little surprising.
>
> You can read the article at:
>
>   http://www.servlets.com/soapbox/problems-jsp-reaction.html
>
> Please think twice before posting "feedback to the feedback" on this
> list.  This thread is already getting tired.  Issues can be sent to the
> feedback alias at the bottom of the article.  (Maybe I should get a
> slashdot-style bulletin board working, but in the long term my articles
> will be more technical and less controversial, so...)
>
> -jh-
>
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