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> Ask him to visit Shockwave.com
> http://www.shockwave.com/bin/shockwave/main/frame_set.jsp
> <http://www.shockwave.com/bin/shockwave/main/frame_set.jsp>  They use JSP
> there and not slow.
> Dennis

>> Is not this page written in Javascript?
>> Vadim Shun

They use javascript on the page for browser detection and shockwave version
detection and ad rotation, but since the file ends in .jsp one can assume
that they are somehow dynamically generating some of the HTML and possibly
some of the javascript that you see in the source. This site is not
neccessarily the best example of JSP in action because the bulk of the
performance is coming from shockwave.

At the very bottom of this page:
http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/industry.html there is a list of web sites
powered by .jsp that includes some more traditional type businesses.

>>Has anybody seen convincing benchmarks proving JSP superiority in
>>performance or reliability?
>>That would make the point, otherwise the arguments for JSP are based on
>>religious beliefs in Java, and that does not sit well with some bosses, as
>>some noted.
>> Vadim Shun

In regards to benchmarks of jsp performance vs. other server side solutions,
I have not come accross any myself (If anyone knows of a resource for this
plz post), but at least with asp vs jsp, jsp is going to be faster because
each page is only interpreted the first time that it is requested. ASP pages
get reinterpreted with every call (Check the archives, there was some
discussion on this a while back). I haven't used ColdFusion myself but I
have a good bit of experience waiting for pages to load on websites that are
implemented with it (and I'm on a T1).

Another area that is going to affect performance is database access. As far
as this is concerned I only know the things to do to decrease overhead using
JDBC, but I have know idea how java stacks up against other server side
solutions in this area. Again, anyone have a resource? (I know its a little
off topic but it does affect overall performance in jsp/servlet/bean driven
web aps... -Oh, ok, ok. I'll go subscribe to JDBC-interest)

_jesse

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd L. Poole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 3:16 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: My boss needs convincing.
>
>
> My boss seems to have the "software engineer" background and is continuously
> critical about web technology that I work with. I develop web application
> using ASP and a database alone. I am not using any of my own components.
>
> Since I am learning java, I am finding it easier to understand and more
> logical than Microsoft's programming languages. I would like to expand into
> using JSP, Servlets, and Beans, but my boss still thinks Java is slow and
> not as efficient as CGI programs written in C. I think he is full of it and
> I would like to go back to him with proven results from other people using
> this technology in a situation where load balancing is an issue.
>
> Until I am writing machine code - I will never please this guy, but I would
> like to prove him wrong just once with this.
>
> If you have any input, please share!
>
> Bored editing HTML pages....
>
> Todd
>
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