Just a comment on the sluggishness of Forte and related apps.  Try HotSpot.
It should increase the performance.  Also, maybe give a lot more RAM to the
Java process so it doesn't try to garbage collect so often.  Anyway, I hear
you.  There's no perfect solution.

Scott Stirling

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From: "Kevin Duffey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: good servlet debugger]


> I tried Forte.
>
> I have to say, while I will probably start using it, a few things I notice
> right off.
>
> First, I know the sway of the market is not to use MDI based applications.
> But I really hate having all those tabs on my start line. Its confusing
when
> I am running a few other programs in conjunction with Forte. I had like 8
> new tabs added when running Forte. Ok..dont use MDI, but cant each of
those
> windows be placed in the Window menu, instead of tabs on the Start menu.
> What about Forte on Linux or other platforms..does it do this as well
there?
>
> Second, the speed is terrible! Its so darn slow! While Forte may give alot
> of bang for no bucks, it sure is sluggish. I know SWING is slow and all,
but
> shoot..I start editing, and its like my keyboard gets stuck every few
> letters I type.
>
> On a side note, for those not aware, the JDK 1.3 beta greatly speeds up
> SWING apps. Even so, Forte still is sluggish in some areas. I do notice
> windows open quite abit faster, and scrolling of the editor is smooth now
> compared to choppy at best with JDK 1.2.2. It does work with JDK 1.3
> though..I haven't noticed any bugs yet..but then again, I dont use Forte
> yet.
>
> I think I would wait for JBuilder 4 though..being that it is also a 100%
> java written app right down to the compiler. The Jbuilder 3 is much faster
> (the swing version demo) than Forte is, and I believe it offers alot of
the
> same types of features, such as RAD/GUI building tools, multi-tab editor,
> etc. I wish Forte had VSS in it..but I assume with its open architecture
> someone can write a plugin for it?
>
> Anyways..first thought of Forte is that its workable, but not quite up to
> snuff with native IDEs. I still use KAWA at this point. Only reason I am
> even looking at Forte is because our team is trying to decide the best
> platform to use for developing with.
>
>
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