We have excellent debugging tools here for servlets and JSP, even
distributed. We're using VisualAge for Java from IBM. Unless you've tried
all tools and REALLY understand what you're doing, don't fault the tools or
languages! I have a feeling that there wasn't a lot of experience on your
project, and inexperienced people can screw up an ASP site as well.
Bill Hines
-----Original Message-----
From: Mohan Radhakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 8:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Concepts and vendors
Hi,
Sometimes it is quite funny. We discuss so many design issues and
lofty modeling practices like the Model 2 pattern. I wrote a JSP and called
a servlet
with a servlet engine and it caused the engine to stop working after some
time. Now it has been decided to rewrite the JSP as a servlet because we
don't have the time to debug the memory hogging issue. We have a deadline.
The languages (JSP or whatever) and concepts like CORBA are all
trying to change the way we work but the vendors don't create good products.
So we end up blaming the language or concept. Now the ASP or Microsoft
supporters in our organization have started blaming Java and JSP because it
is JSP that didn't work and it is Java that is slow.
I have faced the same problem with NetDynamics and PowerJ. When the
early release of PowerJ was bug ridden my manager starting blaming Java.
Even now we don't have good remote debuggers for servlets. We don't know
what the request is or the response from the web server is. Sometimes I had
to use a packed sniffer to look at the request and response.
I am sure that this is not what we want. On the one hand brilliant
people come up with good ideas like Java and CORBA. On the other the vendors
turn out faulty products. Companies like MS produce good tools to back up
their technology.
Can't we do the same for java ?
bye,
Mohan
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