Some of my colleages have used WebObjects, and I've heard mixed things about it.  Once 
you overcome its learning curve, it's apparently a very rapid way to develop fairly 
sophisticated functionality.

I understand that it consists of a fairly mature O/R persistence layer (EOF) along 
with a very full-featured web application framework (although it's not even remotely 
servlet-based).

The biggest drawback, apart from the learning curve, is the fact that it's completely 
proprietary.  My impression is that Apple realized that it was about to lose the app 
server market completely, and if they didn't drop the price from $50,000 to $700, 
they'd be giving it away for free in six months.

I also gather from their press release that the 5.0 release is going to be 
significantly different, which makes me a little nevous about getting into bed with 
the technology at this point.  It's going to be a completely Java application, for one 
thing, with EJB support.

It's not a servlet container right now, either, and I'm not sure what their plans are 
for J2EE compliance or anything along those lines.  Flashline has removed it from the 
app server comparison matrix, interestingly.

I'm really scratching my head over this one - it currently holds top spot in the Java 
Developer's Journal 2000 Reader's Choice Awards for "Best Application Server".  This 
is pretty suspicious given that it didn't even get nominated in the IDE, middleware, 
or class library categories.  My guess is that a lot of those votes originated from 
apple.com!

Michael

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WebObjects (http://www.apple.com/WebObjects) is:

An application server:
WebObjects handles all your application server
requirements—including load balancing, performance profiling, state
management and failover, HTML generation and Java client
interoperability.

With cross- ​platform compatibility:
WebObjects 4.5 runs on Mac OS X Server and Windows NT (as well as
Solaris, HP-UX and Windows 2000), and works across applications,
business systems and existing business logic.

It connects to business data:
WebObjects features an object-oriented adapter layer that lets you
leverage data stored in Oracle, Sybase, Informix, OpenBase and ODBC
databases — and now LDAP. If that's not enough, our developer
partners will help you access information stored on mainframes, R/3,
PeopleSoft and SAP databases.

Uses Object Frameworks:
Prebuilt objects provide the elements you need to create and extend
network applications that serve millions of users.

And comes with robust development tools:
Apple offers a fully integrated set of tools, covering project
management, data modeling, and constructing HTML and Java interfaces.
WebObjects 4.5 features a completely redesigned WebObjects Builder,
giving you even easier control over your HTML layout using an
intuitive drag- ​and- ​drop interface, making it even easier to
get the look you want.


The best part about WebObjects is that all WebObjects development
follows Model-View-Controller (MVC) the design pattern commonly known
as "Model 2". And at $699 for development & unlimited deployment,
the price is very hard to beat!

Check it out for yourselves.

-Alex

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Alex Horovitz
Founder, Technical Advisor
BeyondIntuiton, Inc.
http://www.beyondintuition.com

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