I'm coming across this problem myself Casey.  At least with Microsoft it is
easy to work out which drivers to use.  I'm finding trying to get a Java
driver (in my case for SQL server) a bit of a minefield and some of my
colleagues are getting into a tiz about the licencing (have to admit, not
looked into the licence issue I'd hazard a guess at my colleagues
over-reacting).

Also there are worries about ease of portability between different driver
vendors.  For example if we bought com.bloggs.SQLServer.driver to use on
windows and then com.matey.cheapo.driver for use on Unix do you know what
the likely code impact may be?  Happy to admit that using a different
database will change the code but using a different driver for the same
database shouldn't have any impact should it?  What has your experience been
with this?

Is there anything stopping us using the sun jdbc:odbc bridge driver for
simple database activity (single threaded, running server side stored
procedures)?



-----Original Message-----
From: JSP Insider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 December 2000 19:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: using JSP in MS products. IMportant Consider hidden
Costs!!!!


There are several really good JDBC driver which will run around 500.00

This cost is minimal compared to learning costs of using ASP if you don't
already know asp. So if you have experience in Java but none in ASP then
factor that into your consideration.

If you already know ASP then this will not be an issue.

But if you want to use JSP then there is a issue that is driving this. If it
is related to portability, code reuse or leveraging existing skills. Then
500.00 is a small price to pay relative to amount of time or effort you will
lose to these other issues.


Casey Kochmer
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>From: Taku Sugimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
>     reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: using JSP in MS products
>Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 02:08:04 +0900
>
>Thank you for your responses.
>
>OK, the drivers dosen't cost little money .
>I don't want to really develop in all MS products,
>but that seems the better choice for this time.
>
>regards,
>taku
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Manne Fagerlind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 1:03 AM
>Subject: Re: [JSP-INTEREST] using JSP in MS products
>
>
> > I don't think there's an open source one, but you may find a free one.
>The
> > ones I've seen have cost money, though not a fortune (think they cost
>less
> > than $1000). If your budget is limited it might be wise to choose an
>all-MS
> > platform. All you have to pay for is the Windows NT license, and
>development
> > time may be slightly shorter as well.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Taku Sugimoto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 07 December 2000 16:25
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: using JSP in MS products
> >
> >
> > Yes, i'm afraid the JDBC drivers are expensive.
> > How much are they in general.
> > Is there open source JDBC driver?
> > What JDBC driver is recommended?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 12:00 AM
> > Subject: RE: using JSP in MS products
> >
> >
> > > Why can't you use a JDBC driver? You know that there are drivers for
>SQL
> > > Server, don't you?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Taku Sugimoto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 07 December 2000 15:27
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: using JSP in MS products
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > i'm using NT(sp6), IIS4.0 and MS SQLServer7.0.
> > > i want to use JSP, Servlet and JavaBeans (not EJB) to access
> > > the database. But unfortunately i can't use JDBC driver,
> > > therefore to connect the database, i have to use ASP.
> > > Is it possible to pass data (XML format, maybe) or
> > > parameters (using JavaScript) between JSP and ASP?
> > > Or, in this case, is it better to use not JSP/Servlet but ASP?
> > > If possble, how can i do this?
> > >
> > > thanks in advance.
> > > taku
> > >
> > >
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